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There have been quite a few discussions on exactly this point, so good call! I'm going to move and merge this thread to the Dark Tower subforum in The Baronies. It'll be merged with the official Loop...

Merged indeed! :D

There's even the same diagram a couple of posts up ;)

Get stuck in in here, mdk - it's a great thread :couple:

Merging with the official loop thread ;) :thumbsup:

Merging :D

I know the Loop thread is long, but I summarised a few pages back, so please take a look and join in :couple:

I think Roland is the only one to ever have the moment of awareness - as he's the only one to ever reach the top of the Tower. There could be something in that...:orely:

Yes! You used that analogy before and I'd forgotten...it's entirely perfectly expressed that way :couple:

Bumbler - the time frame within the bubble wouldn't be the same sequence playing over and over. It's more like removing 19 years (that's just a random number :D ) from a timeline and letting the...

I haven't been posting in the discussions much lately because I'm using wii internet which is hell! :lol:

Ryan, I'm not really sure. The comic backstories have provided me with "evidence" (I use...

I just posted this in the "Saved or damned" thread, but I thought it was pertinent to discussion here too.

Prior to rereading the comics, I've been of the opinion that Roland was on exactly the...

Sorry about that. I had no idea what this thread was about because of the name :P[/QUOTE]

:D No worries! I know it's a bit cryptic, but we decided that it would be too much of a spoiler to name it...

Roland's Intuition & Why Remember To Forget:

Merging both threads with the main "loop thread" (That Thing, You Can Only Talk About When You've Finished The Series). Great questions, but anything...

Excellent! I just need to read 3 more Jim Butcher books to complete his series (so far) and then I'm embarking on my DT reread (it's for the Tower Connections, so I should be paying even more...

Ah yes! Minor details I overlooked :lol:

I think mostly though that all these important things happen by the way and that what Roland needs to do is not, cry off the Tower, because I believe he...

I was thinking more of the part where the beams have been saved and Roland still wants to reach the Tower...I'm due a reread, but don't Suze or Eddie speculate whether saving the beams was truly...

I think though, within the context of DT, that Roland dropping Jake wasn't about sacrificing one to save many - it was to do with Roland's goal of reaching the Tower, which as we learn, he isn't...

Yes, I was discussing this in the pub last weekend (hey, we can get drunk and be deep y'know! :lol:) And I think it's an interesting paradox - because sacrificing one to save many doesn't really make...

I can think of loads more stuff he did other than Tull...dropping Jake for one ;)

There are also alot of instances where Roland acknowledges to himself, in a situation where people are perceiving...

I agree for Jake's death he would have traded places, but I also think he wouldn't have freely acted any differently (his past actions up to that point) had he been given the choice - and perhaps...

Did you not find Roland's lack of empathy and consideration for anything but his goal of reaching the Tower questionable?

Hey :) Welcome to the site!

Now, don't be put off by the length of this thread :lol: but your questions - which don't really have any solid answers, only speculative ones - are being discussed...