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Maybe so, but in this universe, there's no shortage of creators of literature, if it's the ham-fisted moralist variety.

Look, it's always bothered me that so much of the exposition we got on...

Wow. That's incredibly simple-minded. I'm seriously disappointed. I guess SK really was trying to speak for God.

Yes, it's interesting. Nothing to apologize for. Welcome, thanks for contributing. :)

excuse me, isn't the story a little more complicated than that? On the one hand, it is obsession. On the other, it is saving the universe - nothing, I believe, to spit on. With saving lots of...

-- Genesis 3:4-5

:) The (amicable) Religious Discussion Thread

Sorry if we made you feel that you were being excluded here, on this thread. I certainly don't mean to put down your beliefs, and in fact I quite...

Ah, yes, of course...
Why, it's sheer poetry. :P
:lol: Not that there's anything wrong with that... I just thought that I detected some frustration. :unsure:
I'm very sorry to make you feel that...

Well, you don't need to get agitated. It's simply that, whether talking worlds or souls, my way is to "Measure twice, cut once." I'd be willing to set aside our differences, if we could just agree...

I meant meaning number 4[/QUOTE]But can that meaning be separated from the others? If sin is what he is to be saved from, then how can being saved depend on what he is?

...most of my point is my...

"salavation"Can you prove that?
Even if it is true, changes to the basic order of the universe might result if Roland ceased.

mikatile: One of the Buddha's Four Noble Truths is that it is...

That's some catch, that Catch-22.
If Roland's quest for salvation is exactly what keeps him in damnation, then the question becomes whether maintaining the fabric of the universe is, itself, really...

Well, this might be better suited to our "That Thing..." thread, but what about the line that says that he is not sent back to very beginning, when things could still have been different?

Looks like you've done a few merges and edits since I been gone, Darkthoughts. I really like the way you've handled them, for the most part. :)


Well, we were also discussing the nature of God,...

Well, I’m confused.
If it is true that…
… then it’s only himself that is endangered. True?

To me, crying off from the Tower = ignorance, but I don’t know, really. I can see the other side,...

Yes, but a deeper question is why. Some people think that Roland's goals are really not much better than Walter's.

Sure, I've read most of King's books. It is interesting to think how the...

However, climbing to the top was also just a means to an end: his real quest was to see whether what is up there is a bumhug or not.
Sounds like a pretty heartless thing. If the Tower was NOT...

Interesting. Does anyone remember where this was written? Maybe you could give a link, Matt?

Please do. What a tantalizing comment. Are you speaking of the persistence of magic? (I think I'm...

Thanks, Matt. :) That means a lot.

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Well, then, let's try to get it back on, because the topic is a damned good one.:D
He has. Many. In On Writing, King talks about his old desk and when he got a new one as a parable to give the...