Rarer yes, but no market for it, so its worth less.Quote:
Originally Posted by BROWNINGS CHILDE
Rarer yes, but no market for it, so its worth less.Quote:
Originally Posted by BROWNINGS CHILDE
It's kinda like finding a '65 Shelby that was accidently made without the side view mirror. You know it was made and sold like this, but that doesn't change it from anything besides a mistake.
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Originally Posted by willie3
21 bid retractions over the past six months, 12 within the last 30 days.Quote:
Originally Posted by SkippyD023
k***r (148 )
I'm surprised that eBay doesn't boot this person off the system. I wonder if they've been reprimanded.
(I don't read the small print in eBay's policies, I just agree to them.)
But a dream for the unscrupulous dealer. How easy it would be to pop a " 1 " or an " A " into that blank space. Or even " Author's Copy " or " Artist's Copy "Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Rabbit TrickRarer yes, but no market for it, so its worth less.Quote:
Originally Posted by BROWNINGS CHILDE
You get the idea
Not only do I say it could be done, I'm willing to bet it HAS been done.
Do lettered copies of the stand have that same page, or do they say "This is letter ____"
There is a well known forgery of this that Barry R Levin has been trying to sell for years...Quote:
Originally Posted by Calla_Wolf
"The Stand: The Complete and Uncut Edition. New York: Doubleday, 1990. First edition thus, FORGED LETTERED STATE. Signed by King and Bernie Wrightson, the book's illustrator. This book was originally limited to 52 LETTERED copies and 1,250 NUMBERED copies. With about 20 out-of-series (unlettered and unnumbered) copies produced to provide back-up in case of damage to in-series copies. This copy was one of the rare (20 or less) out-of-series back-up copies to which someone added the letters "AP" to the limitation page, in an attempt to make this copy look like one of the 52 "LETTERED" copies. The forger did not know that the lettered copies had been marked "A" to "Z" and "AA" to "ZZ". No "AP" copy was ever produced. What we have here is an authentic limited edition, with authentic autographs, but which is a FORGED "LETTERED" state (or an authentic but altered rare out-of-series copy)."
Exactly the same page.Quote:
Originally Posted by BROWNINGS CHILDE
:scared::scared::scared:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Rabbit TrickThere is a well known forgery of this that Barry R Levin has been trying to sell for years...Quote:
Originally Posted by Calla_Wolf
"The Stand: The Complete and Uncut Edition. New York: Doubleday, 1990. First edition thus, FORGED LETTERED STATE. Signed by King and Bernie Wrightson, the book's illustrator. This book was originally limited to 52 LETTERED copies and 1,250 NUMBERED copies. With about 20 out-of-series (unlettered and unnumbered) copies produced to provide back-up in case of damage to in-series copies. This copy was one of the rare (20 or less) out-of-series back-up copies to which someone added the letters "AP" to the limitation page, in an attempt to make this copy look like one of the 52 "LETTERED" copies. The forger did not know that the lettered copies had been marked "A" to "Z" and "AA" to "ZZ". No "AP" copy was ever produced. What we have here is an authentic limited edition, with authentic autographs, but which is a FORGED "LETTERED" state (or an authentic but altered rare out-of-series copy)."
Wow...look at that asking price
Nuts
That's why it has been on sale for years. It will never sell at that price.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calla_Wolf
This person needs a kick up the a*se and reported to ebay.Quote:
Originally Posted by Patrick
This person's ID is: killbourne_kram
Attempted piracy, I'd call that :pirate:Quote:
Originally Posted by Mr. Rabbit TrickThat's why it has been on sale for years. It will never sell at that price.Quote:
Originally Posted by Calla_Wolf
There used to be a time when dealers set the price and the market. That changed when ebay, and similar sites, took off. Now it's the buyers who set market value, a fact that sellers ignore at their peril. Knowledgeable buyers will always steer clear of inflated prices, and the number of knowledgeable buyers is growing every year. They will, of course, happily pay a marked up price as long as it remains in the realms of reasonableness, but when confronted by silly prices, they will vote with their feet and go elsewhere.
Does anyone know the seller thecomicmonster ?
He's got plenty comics signed by Robin Furth, Peter David and some stuff singed by Bernie Wrightson...
Hey burial, I can't get to this link from work - but it's not out of the question that he got those sigs at a comic con, or even had a signing. Does the seller list an actual brick and mortar comic shop?Quote:
Originally Posted by burial
Robin signs for several places - including The Signed Page. Both Peter and Bernie do the bigger comic conventions. And Robin's been known to do one or two as well.
ETA: though this isn't probably the thread to get into details - a signed comic which is NOT CGC graded/certified isn't worth a lot on the comic collectors market.
He's well-known in the comic art collecting groups as an eBay flipper. He has a lot of people working for him who stand in line at conventions to purchase commissions, get autographs, etc., and then immediately re-sell on eBay.Quote:
Originally Posted by burial
The art collecting contingent get upset because the flippers take spots that might have gone to real fans. The flippers argue that they're providing a service to those who can't make it to conventions.
I haven't heard anything to suggest that any of his material is not genuine.
It has been some years since I was involved in the retail side of the comic world, but I know that signatures often add little value to a comic book UNLESS 1) the signer is not a prolific signer, or 2) the signer is dead, or 3) the signer is an uber-famous person at that moment. Case in point, Todd McFarlane at one time did a signing for the HeroesCon. Due to his immense popularity there was a HUGE turnout. So big that signatures were limited to only two items per person. McFarlane signed (four hours if I remember, maybe more) for all the people in line, but no one was allowed back in line. Because of the limitation, those signatures gained by flippers immediately went on the selling floor at a premium. I even saw one seller had a sign up stating he had McFarlane signed books "No lines, no wait". Today though, I doubt those books are worth anything close to the values at that time (1993/94).Quote:
Originally Posted by turtlex
I have no idea how a CGC grading would affect the value of any comic since around my way, a CGC grading adds no value at all.
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Originally Posted by Sam
Sam - CGC actually has a Signature Series where they send a rep and that rep is with you when the comic is signed and then sent to CGC. It gaurantees that date of the signature and that the signature is real. They're very good investments. ( CGC Signature Series or SS, is a yellow label )
That's a very good way to guarantee the validity of signatures.:thumbsup: However, what I meant was that none of the comic shops around me deal with CGC graded books. Two of them won't even buy CGC graded books because their customers won't buy them. If I were to take a CGC graded book to either of those two stores right now, I wouldn't be able to sell or trade it for anything more than the trade value of a loose copy of the book in the same condition. That's what I mean when I say that a CGC grading adds no value in my area.
So funny....because CGC is all that sells on ebay...
But...it make sense that there's a difference...if I walk into a comic store and buy some rare/old comic, I'm going to want to take it out and read it at least once. If I buy on ebay maybe it's not as personal an experience, and I'm happy to have it entombed on a slab.
I like the concept behind CGC, but not the actual practice...since the book can't ever be read again it just makes no sense to me.
Take a look at this listing. I didn't know this book was so valuable. They are supposedly selling for "well over $1000 ... more if signed"
http://cgi.ebay.com/Carrie-Salems-Lo...item27ae6bee3c
I should feel real happy, I picked up my copy for less than $5. Maybe it's time to sell!!
At most, he should be asking $10 for this. I wish I was in the same dream world as he is.
John
But, John, he takes Best Offers!
Wow. Even it it were signed twice, I wouldn't pay $1,000. For something that's just a regular book, what makes him believe it's worth that much? :|
He's probably smoking something.Quote:
Originally Posted by Ricky
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The image isn't clear enough...and I can't understand if it is ok...what do you think about this?
Stephen-King-Under-The-Dome-Autographed-Book
Even if the sig is legit it is fugly!!!Quote:
Originally Posted by artan