The eBay BS Game: Questionable items, Stephen King signatures, sellers

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12-02-2008 05:14 AM
carlosdetweiller

Quote:

Originally Posted by gsvec

Maybe the guy is both VJ Books AND cecman2003 - just has 2 accounts.

I was surprised to see the name VJ Books associated with anything remotely underhanded. I have bought books from VJ Books many times over the years both on ABE and eBay without problems. But now it looks like someone else has taken over the name. The VJ Books I used to deal with was on the west coast (Oregon or Washington, IIRC). The only VJ Books listed on ABE right now is in the United Kingdom. I agree that the whole thing smells bad.
12-02-2008 11:17 AM
Ves'Ka Gan

Has anybody here done business with a seller called "disneynut2"?

I only ask because some of his listings seem to be a little intentionally misleading, and when asking him a question about one of them he sent me a very snarky e-mail.
12-02-2008 11:25 AM
jhanic

I got my copy of the 1st/1st Night Shift from him and found him to be okay.

John
12-02-2008 11:49 AM
gsvec

Name sounds familiar, but I'll need to check my eBay history.
12-02-2008 11:51 AM
carlosdetweiller

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ves'Ka Gan

Has anybody here done business with a seller called "disneynut2"?

I only ask because some of his listings seem to be a little intentionally misleading, and when asking him a question about one of them he sent me a very snarky e-mail.

No, I've never done any business with him mostly for the reasons you just listed. Caveat emptor.
12-02-2008 11:53 AM
carlosdetweiller

Quote:

Originally Posted by jhanic

I got my copy of the 1st/1st Night Shift from him and found him to be okay.

John

But, John, wasn't there a problem with the book? And the seller offered you a partial refund? Or am I thinking of something else?
12-02-2008 12:50 PM
jhanic

You're right. There was a bookplate on the front cover. I'd forgotten about that. I still got a 1st/1st Night Shift for less than $190!

John
12-02-2008 04:46 PM
gsvec

I checked and I've not purchased anything from them. I looked at one of the current auctions, though, and remember the irritating listings. :lol: Either I bid on something or I just remember him being talked about when John had his issue. Sorry!
12-03-2008 04:35 AM
Room 217 Caretaker

Quote:

Originally Posted by Ves'Ka Gan

Has anybody here done business with a seller called "disneynut2"?

I only ask because some of his listings seem to be a little intentionally misleading, and when asking him a question about one of them he sent me a very snarky e-mail.

I haven't bought from this guy but have had a few emails back and forth about his misleading auctions. :onfire:

For our newbies here......don't be afraid to post your question here on thedarktower.org before buying anything King related. You won't find a more knowledgeable group anywhere in the world.

Mulleins
Cumberland VA
12-03-2008 04:55 AM
Hutch

update: All this seller's signed Stephen King auctions have mysteriously disappeared.

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hutch

The following ID history explains fire-horse-books and their forgeries.
It's the big time forger from fall 2007 Renaissance Auctions

eBay Member User ID History
The box below contains the User IDs that this member has used on eBay.
User ID Effective Date End Date
fire-horse-books Jun-01-08 Present
renaissance_auctions Mar-27-07 Jun-01-08
nikawanderer1971 Feb-24-07 Mar-27-07

Updated text from www.skfakes old list :

renaissance_auctions their alias wanderingwriter1966 and new ID in 2008 fire-horse-books noticeably started selling King forgeries in Oct. 2007. ( nearly $4,000 worth of junk in the first month and still going strong ) Mostly selling forged 1st BCE . What the heck is a 1st BCE and how do you identify it as such? Of course the seller falsely claims these were actually printed the same year as the true firsts. As for BCEs, they are stateless It's not possible to distinguish between one printed five years ago and one printed fifteen years ago. We just a little comparison we presume their signed books from other authors are also forgeries.
12-03-2008 06:21 AM
EXPLORER

VJ BOOKS was seller to not buyer from CECMAN2003

Quote:

Originally Posted by pickle

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hutch

reported all of these:

http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/cecman2003

The sad part is bidders are buying them even though the seller places a disclaimer in the descriptions. Their winning bidders must really know their Stephen King signatures. :orely:

One bidder invested about $3000

They've been at it for a bit and is making pretty good $$$$ per his feedback and the end prices.

That is rediculus, some people have absolutly no shame at all.

It must take a lot of Horlicks (malt drink) to get them to sleep.

What makes it even more silly is that one of his biggest buyers is a shop called "vjbooks" with alot of feedback points, makes you wonder if they know there fakes or not.

ACTUALLY VJBOOKS WAS A SELLER TO, NOT A BUYER FROM THIS GUY.
The FEEDBACK given this questionable seller was not for items VJ bought.
The FEEDBACK PROFILE pages gives you the ability to see FEEDBACK from items BOUGHT or SOLD or ALL FEEDBACK for any Ebay ID.

I AM NOT TRYING TO DEFEND VJBOOKS HERE...HOWEVER...It appears they may have been brought into this conversation regarding this "QUESTIONABLE SELLER" without really being at fault. If one studies the feedback carefully it actually appear VJ sold Cecman2003 some non-King related items and were not duped by this seller into buying his suspect King signed books.

I have no afiliation with VJbooks.... I just spotted what looks like a potential err in someones post that may affect someones reputation.
12-03-2008 04:44 PM
Patrick

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hutch

reported all of these:

http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/cecman2003

The sad part is bidders are buying them even though the seller places a disclaimer in the descriptions. Their winning bidders must really know their Stephen King signatures. :orely:

One bidder invested about $3000

They've been at it for a bit and is making pretty good $$$$ per his feedback and the end prices.

I'm reporting each one of these auctions right now. 14 down, 7 to go.
EDIT: All 21 reported.

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For anyone who may want a reminder on how to report an auction:

While logged into eBay, scroll to the bottom of the listing.

Click the "Report This Item" button.

Then follow the three drop down menus:

Reason for Report
Counterfeits and copyright

Detailed Reason
Bootlegs and counterfeit media

Additional Information
Counterfeit autographs

Brief Description
(your comment goes here)
12-03-2008 04:46 PM
Randall Flagg

Thanks Patrick.
To me, e-bay makes the reporting procedure very cumbersome.
12-03-2008 04:56 PM
Patrick

I agree, but they can probably deal with huge numbers of complaints (for various auctions for various reasons) faster if the reports are pre-sorted. Once I got in the groove, reporting 21 separate auctions didn't seem to take as long as I would have expected.
12-03-2008 08:09 PM
The Lady of Shadows

Quote:

Originally Posted by Patrick

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hutch

reported all of these:

http://shop.ebay.com/merchant/cecman2003

The sad part is bidders are buying them even though the seller places a disclaimer in the descriptions. Their winning bidders must really know their Stephen King signatures. :orely:

One bidder invested about $3000

They've been at it for a bit and is making pretty good $$$$ per his feedback and the end prices.

I'm reporting each one of these auctions right now. 14 down, 7 to go.
EDIT: All 21 reported.

- - - -

For anyone who may want a reminder on how to report an auction:

While logged into eBay, scroll to the bottom of the listing.

Click the "Report This Item" button.

Then follow the three drop down menus:

Reason for Report
Counterfeits and copyright

Detailed Reason
Bootlegs and counterfeit media

Additional Information
Counterfeit autographs

Brief Description
(your comment goes here)

reported them all. i hate people right now. :(
12-03-2008 10:26 PM
Hutch

I'm glad you all followed suit.... take a look at their listings now !

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randall Flagg

Thanks Patrick.
To me, e-bay makes the reporting procedure very cumbersome.
12-03-2008 10:34 PM
Patrick

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hutch

I'm glad you all followed suit.... take a look at their listings now !

They've all been removed. Sweet!

Some poor buyers have been saved from being tricked out of their cash. :clap:
12-04-2008 12:17 AM
pickle

Well done guys!!

As Patrick said someone has been saved some money!!
12-04-2008 03:42 AM
turtlex

Cheers, folks!
Thanks for reporting those things.
It really is cool of you to take the time and look out for everyone.
12-04-2008 03:52 AM
lophophoras

I am glad they were removed!

I reported them all earlier this week and was beginning to wonder if it had made a difference or not since ebay still had them listed.

That's team work!

:dance:
12-04-2008 12:17 PM
EXPLORER

AMAZING

Quote:

Originally Posted by Hutch

I'm glad you all followed suit.... take a look at their listings now !

Quote:

Originally Posted by Randall Flagg

Thanks Patrick.
To me, e-bay makes the reporting procedure very cumbersome.

WOW...REALLY GLAD TO SEE EBAY DOES FOLLOW-UP ON REPORTING
Good Job to all who worked that. First time I ever heard of results.
12-05-2008 03:11 PM
Room 217 Caretaker

Creepshow Auction

Am I missing something here :wtf: ? This is supposed to be rare? What happened to First Edition being rare?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-Cre...3A1|240%3A1318

Mulleins
Cumberland VA
12-05-2008 04:36 PM
lophophoras

Guys, what do you think? Check out his other auctions...

http://cgi.ebay.com/STEPHEN-KING-TOM...QQcmdZViewItem
12-05-2008 04:51 PM
Fsmdr

My opinion - fake
12-05-2008 05:55 PM
pickle

The Sig looks not too bad to me (but im no expert), but its far too cheap at $20 to be real imho.

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