Best Antagonist--Nominations Closed

[Aaron]

This thread is for members to nominate characters for the Award for Best Antagonist. In order for a character to be eligible for nomination they must satisfy the definition of an antagonist listed below, and they must be a character from one of Stephen King's published works, including any of his novels, novellas, and short stories. Characters from titles published under the pseudonym Richard Bachman are also eligible.

To nominate a character for this category, simply post your choice in this thread. In order for a character to be placed onto the voting ballot for the Award the nominated character must be seconded and thirded, also in this thread. This is to ensure that we do not have an overly long list of contenders for the Award, and that--by virtue of the nomination process--each character listed on the ballot is guaranteed to have at least something of a following come voting time. Please note that you MUST clearly state in your post that you are seconding or thirding a nomination for it to count. Feel free to deliberate and discuss your choices in this thread.

While you may second or third a nomination more than once, we ask that there be only one new nomination per member.

Antagonist- The character who opposes or struggles with the protagonist/hero in a literary work. Adversary; villain.

[mae]

Cujo in Cujo.

[razz]

now there's a question; was Cujo a protagonist or antagonist?

[Aaron]

Antagonist. He was the opposition.

[mae]

But I love him dearly :)

[razz]

is there gonna be an antagonist one then?

[Aaron]

What do you mean? You are posting in the antagonist thread right now.

[cozener]

I have a feeling Flagg is going to take this one. He isn't my favorite but I still think he's got it. For my part, I'm torn between Nadine Cross and the Overlook Hotel.

[Aaron]

Is that an official nomination then, Cozener?

[razz]

What do you mean? You are posting in the antagonist thread right now.
smartass :)

question. can we nominate or second if we already have?

[cozener]

For Flagg? Nope.

Can I nominate Nadine and the Overlook? If I can then these are my nominees. :)

[mae]

question. can we nominate or second if we already have?

You mean nominate more than one?

[cozener]

Yeah...its one of those big head/small head things for me.

edit: :lol: You weren't talking to me. Ooops. But I can't pick between the two so I have to nominate both...or neither.

[Aaron]

I would say that you can second or third more than once, but you should only nominate the one that you feel is the best pick.

[jayson]

I'll nominate Leland Gaunt of Needful Things.

[cozener]

I would say that you can second or third more than once, but you should only nominate the one that you feel is the best pick. Oh fine. Be that way. Picky bastard.

[jayson]

If you pick the hotel I will second it Coz. Otherwise, you're on your own :P

[cozener]

Well...damn. See...on an intellectual level I want to pick the hotel. I enjoyed the way King made the Overlook seem alive with out hit interracted with Jack and his family and how it slowly took over Jack's mind. Nadine speaks to me on a more primal level but also on an intellectual level. But Nadine was sexy as all get out and I really liked how she slowly fell into darkness. She's also a person and not a building. As fascinating as I find the concept of an evil building I do prefer a humanoid antagonist.

I have to pick Nadine. Its by the most narrow of margins but I have to pick her. I know its kind of obscure and she has no hope of winning but still.

[The Lady of Shadows]

:panic:

i can't decide. i can't decide.

[Jackie]

Randall Flagg in: The Stand
TDT
The Eyes of the Dragon

[mystima]

i second flagg for eyes of the dragon....

loved that book. and his character in that book.

[Jackie]

Yea I think he was best in Eyes of the Dragon, an amazing character and my favorite from that book
So manipulative :evil:

[mystima]

yeah i thought so too...i mean he was able to...get the kings son to kill his father

that's what got it for me

[Sam]

I'll thirded Flagg and would like to nominate Pennywise if it do ya fine.

[razz]

i second Cujo, as well as Pennywise.

[John_and_Yoko]

Offhand, I'd say Randall Flagg (unless I can think of someone better).

Not only is he evil and dangerous (hopping across various stories causing his mischief), but he's interesting, and intelligent.

Have you ever noticed how villains make observations about the world that they then go on to tell the heroes, who might be too idealistic to realize it?

Randall Flagg kind of does that for me--and mixing truth with lies REALLY makes one scary and dangerous, and thus a better villain.

[jayson]

So how is this going to work with Flagg? As far as the poll goes, does he count as a singular entity or should he be judged as an antagonist on a book by book basis? I think he made a better antagonist in some books than he did in others. Either way. On with the show...

[Sam]

Uh, Flagg had already been nominated, seconded, and thirded.

[John_and_Yoko]

Uh, Flagg had already been nominated, seconded, and thirded.

:blush:

Just wanted to get my opinion in....

[Sam]

I think because the character is so ever present in King's work that we can all easily agree that it is the same character. I would think the nomination for his portrayal in one story would be a nomination for the entire character regardless of how many times he showed up in King's works.

I mean, if you nominate Roland, you're nominating Roland and not Roland from DT2.

[jayson]

I will have to come up with some kind of composite Flagg to judge him by. I think he's a much more effective antagonist in EOTD or The Stand than he is in some other works.

I'd even say he's a more effective antagonist in the early books of the DT...

In getting Roland to make his sacrifice.


... than he is in the later DT books

In becoming a meal for a spider.

I suppose it will come down to who his competition is in these polls.

[Brice]

I'll second Leland Gaunt; and third Pennywise. :D

I'll also nominate Annie Wilkes.

[jayson]

I'll also nominate Annie Wilkes.

Seconded. I've been waiting for her.

[Woofer]

I'll third Annie Wilkes.

My nomination: Harold Lauder. As soon as I saw the category, my mind yelled HAROLD LAUDER, and I had to tell it to stfu because Mr. Woofer was sleeping.

[Jackie]

Pennywise...MY FAVORITE...IT:wub:

I second Pennywise :D

[flaggwalkstheline]

I Nominate Tak
TAK A WAN!!

[Unfound One]

Second Harold Lauder. Ugh.

[Jean]

nominating:

Greg Stillson (The Dead Zone)
Barlow ('Salem's Lot)

another vote for:

Annie Wilkes (Misery)

[Darkthoughts]

Thirding: Flagg and Pennywise.

Nominating: The ghost/the outsider from Bag of Bones.

[Brice]

nominating:

Greg Stillson (The Dead Zone)
Barlow ('Salem's Lot)




I'll second both of them.

[Brice]

Nominating: The ghost/the outsider from Bag of Bones.

seconded

[fernandito]

Nominating : Tak from The Regulators & Desperation

[stone, rose, unfound door]

I'm seconding (or thirding) Pennywise.
Can I also second Leland Gaunt ?

[razz]

I second Tak from Desperation. not the regulators though.

[stone, rose, unfound door]

I second Tak from Desperation. not the regulators though.

I third Tak.

[Aaron]

mi him en tow!

[razz]

actually, feev: Flaggwalkstheline already nominated Tak. so i guess he's been fourthed.

[Woofer]

I third Greg Stillson.

[Daghain]

I'll third Leland Gaunt.

[stone, rose, unfound door]

I third Barlow

[Randall Flagg]

Shitweasel in Dreamcatcher

[LadyHitchhiker]

Fourth Flagg and Pennywise...

Nominating Mordred.

[Aaron]

Shitweasel in Dreamcatcher

:rofl:

[LadyHitchhiker]

The shitweasels were scary shit but were they really antagonists?

[Aaron]

One could see them that way, I suppose. But I would say the real antagonist of Dreamcatcher was Mr. Gray. Or maybe the slightly psychotic colonel, or whatever that fucker was.

[LadyHitchhiker]

What about Gerald from Gerald's game? ;)

[LadyHitchhiker]

One could see them that way, I suppose. But I would say the real antagonist of Dreamcatcher was Mr. Gray. Or maybe the slightly psychotic colonel, or whatever that fucker was.

Mr. Gray made me laugh but he was definitely an atagonist. The colonel was scarier to me for some reason but they were both definitely antagonists..

[Daghain]

Well, since no one has come out and said it, I'll nominate Mr. Gray.

[Armand St Pierre]

Atropos from Insomnia

Perse from Duma Key

and my all time favorite
although I don't know if he counts as he was created by SK and Peter Straub....
Charles (Chummy) Burnside from BlackHouse

[Darkthoughts]

Nice, I was going to nominate Burny!

I second Burny, Atropos and Perse :thumbsup:

[jayson]

I will third Charles Burnside. I definitely think he should count. It may have been a collaboration with Straub, but Black House is still very much a King work.

[Randall Flagg]

second Mr. Gray

[Hannah]

I'll third Perse. :D

[CRinVA]

I nominate Andre Linoge from Storm of the Century!

Was also thinking about Wild Bill Wharton in The Green Mile and Christine!!!!!

[stone, rose, unfound door]

I third Mr Gray. In which category does Patrick Hockstetter from IT belong ? Creepiest character ever ?

[Heather19]

I nominate Andre Linoge from Storm of the Century!


I completely forgot all about Storm of the Century. I'll definitely second him.

[Darkthoughts]

It's a movie/tv thing though isn't it, not a published work? :unsure:

[mae]

It's a movie/tv thing though isn't it, not a published work? :unsure:

Of course it's published, I have a spiffy-looking hardcover, as I'm sure most do here, as well :)

[Heather19]

I believe he wrote it for the screen, but they did release a screenplay of it.
Pablo do you know if this story is being counted in the overall ranking?

[Darkthoughts]

Oh cool! I thought it was just a movie...one more on the "to read" list then :D

[mae]

Yes, Storm of the Century is in Bracket 9, so you'll be able to vote for it when those books go up for voting.

[Ves'Ka Gan]

I nominate George Stark :)

[The Lady of Shadows]

i'll second george stark

(but if he comes after me i swear to god i'm haunting you forever ves!)

[Randall Flagg]

Third Stark.
Second Wild Bill Wharton.

[theBeamisHome]

wth? no nomination for Norman???

I NOMINATE NORMAN!!! the scariest monster sai king ever created....

[mae]

Wholeheartedly second Norman! Scary dude.

[jayson]

Norman thirded. One of King's best ever baddies.

[Jean]

Norman fourthed

(wish we had a, you know, shooting gallery in Arcade... with all of them aligned... imagine you could kill Norman, preferably with a spoiled egg!)

[theBeamisHome]

oh Gan yes! i hate him so much.. probably because he strikes the most fear into out of all of King's characters because he's real

[jayson]

Norman fourthed

(wish we had a, you know, shooting gallery in Arcade... with all of them aligned... imagine you could kill Norman, preferably with a spoiled egg!)

Desire to kill Norman seconded. Of all of King's bad folks, he's the one I'd most like to have five minutes alone with.

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[theBeamisHome]

:lol:
love that smilie Jayson

[mae]

I think we should name this the Norman Daniels Memorial Award :)

[flaggwalkstheline]

I nominate annie wilkes!

[theBeamisHome]

i think she has been nominated... you might be a second or thirding.

[stone, rose, unfound door]

Annie Wilkes seconded.

[Randall Flagg]

Wilkes thirded

[Tiffany]

Tak and Norman fourthed or fifthed or however many there are now.

[lophophoras]

Pennywise

[Jean]

So far have been nominated (the sign of plus means they have also been seconded/thirded etc):

Cujo +
Leland Gaunt +
Randall Flagg +
Pennywise +
Annie Wilkes +
Tak +
Greg Stillson +
Barlow +
The ghost/the outsider from Bag of Bones
Mordred
Mr.Gray +
Charles (Chummy) Burnside +
Perse +
Andre Linoge
George Stark +
Norman +
Wild Bill Wharton +

The following nominations are going to be moved to Best Minor Antagonist:

Nadine
Harold Lauder +
Patrick Hockstetter

[Jean]

Attention: "1" means the character hasn't been seconded yet.

Cujo 2
Leland Gaunt 4
Randall Flagg 6
Pennywise 8
Annie Wilkes 7
Tak 5
Greg Stillson 3
Barlow 2
The ghost/the outsider from Bag of Bones 2
Mordred 1
Mr. Gray 3
Atropos 2
Charles (Chummy) Burnside 2
Perse 2
Andre Linoge 2
George Stark 3
Wild Bill Wharton 2
Norman 5

[Brice]

I'll third Linoge, Cujo and Barlow.

[Heather19]

and I will third Perse

[Jean]

Attention: "1" means the character hasn't been seconded yet.

Cujo 3
Leland Gaunt 4
Randall Flagg 6
Pennywise 8
Annie Wilkes 7
Tak 5
Greg Stillson 3
Barlow 3
The ghost/the outsider from Bag of Bones 2
Mordred 1
Mr. Gray 3
Atropos 2
Charles (Chummy) Burnside 2
Perse 3
Andre Linoge 3
George Stark 3
Wild Bill Wharton 2
Norman 5

[ManOfWesternesse]

I'd like to 'Third' Atropos please!

[stone, rose, unfound door]

I'm fourthing George Stark.

[Jean]

Attention: "1" means the character hasn't been seconded yet.

Cujo 3
Leland Gaunt 4
Randall Flagg 6
Pennywise 8
Annie Wilkes 7
Tak 5
Greg Stillson 3
Barlow 3
The ghost/the outsider from Bag of Bones 2
Mordred 1
Mr. Gray 3
Atropos 3
Charles (Chummy) Burnside 2
Perse 3
Andre Linoge 3
George Stark 4
Wild Bill Wharton 2
Norman 5

[ksmithcats]

I'll "fourth" Barlow. He's not the scariest or the most completely developed bad guy, but he's my favorite *swoons*

[Jean]

Attention: "1" means the character hasn't been seconded yet.

Cujo 3
Leland Gaunt 4
Randall Flagg 6
Pennywise 8
Annie Wilkes 7
Tak 5
Greg Stillson 3
Barlow 4
The ghost/the outsider from Bag of Bones 2
Mordred 1
Mr. Gray 3
Atropos 3
Charles (Chummy) Burnside 2
Perse 3
Andre Linoge 3
George Stark 4
Wild Bill Wharton 2
Norman 5

[mae]

Mordred seconded.

[Aaron]

Nominations for this category close later today.

[Armand St Pierre]

Charles Burnside has been thirded on the previous page. :ninja:

[Jean]

Attention: "1" means the character hasn't been seconded yet.

Cujo 3
Leland Gaunt 4
Randall Flagg 6
Pennywise 8
Annie Wilkes 7
Tak 5
Greg Stillson 3
Barlow 4
The ghost/the outsider from Bag of Bones 2
Mordred 2
Mr. Gray 3
Atropos 3
Charles (Chummy) Burnside 3
Perse 3
Andre Linoge 3
George Stark 4
Wild Bill Wharton 2
Norman 5

[Jean]

Charles Burnside has been thirded on the previous page. :ninja:
yes, thank you, I know - I was hesitating whether I should move him to Minor Antagonists.
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