Remarkable Remarques! Sketches and Doodles too.

[wizardsrainbow]

Thread Intro: Does your book have original artist or author art? Post it here.

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This is my pride and joy Whelan remarque. It was done in #1333 of the S/L of DT VII, whereas nearly all the others were done in the AE edition. Of all the sketches Whelan did, he put the most detail into this one.
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/312/whelanremarqueam1.jpg

[jhanic]

Well, I'm going to try this. Here's my copy of a Dark Tower VI Song of Susannah remarque.

John

[Patrick]

I've moved the posts above, they are now the genesis of this new thread. :)

[wizardsrainbow]

I agree. Here is my second favorite Roland sketch I got from a former Supercollector.



http://img185.imageshack.us/img185/725/whelan18brw6.jpg

[wizardsrainbow]

Another version of Roland.

http://img519.imageshack.us/img519/3672/rolandfrontqw9.jpg

[wizardsrainbow]

Low Man

http://img442.imageshack.us/img442/4311/lowmangv5.jpg

[wizardsrainbow]

Rooks and Watch


http://img339.imageshack.us/img339/89/whelanrooksap3.jpg

[wizardsrainbow]

Roland and Oy


http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/1388/rolandoy2fi6.jpg

[Patrick]

These are beautiful, David. What a collection!

[Patrick]

I've broken out the original paintings into their own thread to distinguish them from one-off remarques, sketches and doodles. :)

[Nerak]

David, remarque hog!!! :lol:

[Brice]

David, I really have no idea what is considered reasonable to you for one of those Whelan remarques but I found this this morning:

http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Dark-Tower-VII-Stephen-King_W0QQitemZ230127737452QQihZ013QQcategoryZ377QQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[Matt]

Roland and Oy


http://img523.imageshack.us/img523/1388/rolandoy2fi6.jpg

I love that a lot. More than I can say really.

Like it..."after"...you know?

[wizardsrainbow]

David, I really have no idea what is considered reasonable to you for one of those Whelan remarques but I found this this morning:

http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Dark-Tower-VII-Stephen-King_W0QQitemZ230127737452QQihZ013QQcategoryZ377QQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Thanks Brice-

I saw that, placed an offer which was too low. But a friend of mine did get it, so I am very happy for him as he REALLY wanted to own one of these.

[Brice]

David, I really have no idea what is considered reasonable to you for one of those Whelan remarques but I found this this morning:

http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Dark-Tower-VII-Stephen-King_W0QQitemZ230127737452QQihZ013QQcategoryZ377QQ rdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

Thanks Brice-

I saw that, placed an offer which was too low. But a friend of mine did get it, so I am very happy for him as he REALLY wanted to own one of these.


You're welcome! That's good that your friend got it. I was just glad you saw it in time to try. :)

[wizardsrainbow]

I also have 3 Michael Whelan sketches, all Dark Tower related, done in Michael's S/L "The Art of Michael Whelan."

Here is the first one and my favorite of the bunch...

http://img264.imageshack.us/img264/3497/whelanartsketch2ob6.jpg

[wizardsrainbow]

This was the first one Michael did for me...Jake and Oy


http://img402.imageshack.us/img402/4325/jakeoy1jh7.jpg

[wizardsrainbow]

I bought this one from another collector and is more reflective of the new art he has done for the upcoming Gunslinger/Little Sisters book.


http://img225.imageshack.us/img225/1792/rolandsand1bn6.jpg

[Patrick]

Beautiful stuff, David.

So you have three S/L copies of THE ART OF MICHAEL WHELAN, each with a remarque? Nice!

[oy-the-brave]

Here is my remarque. One of the Whelan remarques was my "Holy Grail" I never really thought I would get a shot at one.

[jhanic]

Very nice, Oy!

John

[Patrick]

Awesome, Dave!

[wizardsrainbow]

Congratulations Dave. That's a sweet one!

[BigCoffinHunter]

Well, Wizard stole my Whelan remarque, but he did drop a stack of hundred dollar bills in it's place on the way out, so I guess I can't complain. You're one crafty catburglar there Wizard; stealth, like ninja mongoose :ninja:

But here's my Darrel Anderson sketch, which Wizard left untouched:

http://thedarktower.org/forums/uploads/post-50-1179180628.jpg

[wizardsrainbow]

Well, Wizard stole my Whelan remarque...

But here's my Darrel Anderson sketch, which Wizard left untouched:

http://thedarktower.org/forums/uploads/post-50-1179180628.jpg


BigCoffinHunter....I'd go check again if I were you :pirate: :arg:

[The Red Rose]

Very Nice pics guys.

Wizard, your Whelan original collection never ceases to amaze me!

Is there no option to upload images direct from my PC without having to host them somewhere like image shack?

[Matt]

There should be an option there for you to do it but the board really prefers you host as much as possible :D

size thing. :cool:

[BigCoffinHunter]

I'm sure it's much cheaper that way, less space :)

[The Red Rose]

Found the option now in advanced mode :borg:

I understand about the reasons for you wanting us to host images elsewhere, I'll do that whenever possible in future.

[Matt]

No problem Red Rose, its kind of learning curve. I had no idea about hosting until I got all into this web site thingy. :D

Mostly, I just want to make sure people can set themselves up how they want :grouphug:

[Spencer]

Thread Intro: Does your book have original artist or author art? Post it here.

...
This is my pride and joy Whelan remarque. It was done in #1333 of the S/L of DT VII, whereas nearly all the others were done in the AE edition. Of all the sketches Whelan did, he put the most detail into this one.
http://img130.imageshack.us/img130/312/whelanremarqueam1.jpg

That's my favorite. I love how he incorporated the facing page into the overall picture.

[nyy3723a]

That's just amazing!

[wizardsrainbow]

New Whelan remarques I have purchased

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/519/medium/Roland_B-Mac.JPG

[wizardsrainbow]

and this one too

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/519/medium/Roland_Door.JPG

[Ari_Racing]

Very nice. Congratulations. Wiz!
:)

[jhanic]

Wiz does it again!!

John

[Ari_Racing]

My desperation's remarque (done by Don Maitz):
http://thedarktower.org/forums/uploads/post-50-1184288507.jpg

My Black House's one (done by Rick Berry):
http://thedarktower.org/forums/uploads/post-50-1170178719.jpg

My Song of Susannah's one (Done by Darrel Anderson)
http://thedarktower.org/forums/uploads/post-50-1162948201.jpg

And my Dark Tower with doodles (Thanks to Wiz, and done by Michael Whelan):
http://thedarktower.org/forums/uploads/post-50-1157471953.jpg

[Nerak]

wiz how many is that now????

[wizardsrainbow]

wiz how many is that now????

I have 10 Michael Whelan remarques in DT VII books, 3 more DT-related Whelan remarques in his own S/L book "The Art of Michael Whelan," I think 5 Darrel Anderson remarques (a new one is on the way) in Song of Susannah and one Stephen King remarque that I will pick up this week in a second edition copy of Cujo (see picture below).

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/500/medium/Cujo.jpg

[Darkthoughts]

^That is fantastic! :D

[Nerak]

oh, yeah, david, have I mentioned that I HATE YOU?!?!?! LOL

[wizardsrainbow]

oh, yeah, david, have I mentioned that I HATE YOU?!?!?! LOL

Ummm, yeah, about a million times.:huglove:

[Cutter]

Congrats to everyone, they are all great!

[Nerak]

oh, yeah, david, have I mentioned that I HATE YOU?!?!?! LOL

Ummm, yeah, about a million times.:huglove:



:huglove:

[wizardsrainbow]

Have added another Whelan remarqued copy of DT VII to my collection. This one was purchased from Dave Hutcheson, one of the biggest of all King collectors.:dance:

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/519/Dave_Hutcheson_Remarque.JPG

[Ari_Racing]

Congratulations Wiz!
It looks great!

[Patrick]

Amazing collection, Wiz, including this latest one!

[Airtraffic]

very nice!

[Storyslinger]

This is great

[Airtraffic]

mine

[wizardsrainbow]

mine

:excited: :evil:

[Asterisco]

Congratulations, Wiz!

[lepra79]

wow!!! airtraffic, that drawing is great

[Asterisco]

I've been surfing some of the collector's threads here and in Dt.net and I found that there are some sketches in some of Whelan's prints. I think that in some artist prints or alike.

does anyone know how many exist? can the owners post the pics?
Thanks!

[Ari_Racing]

Wiz, how many do you have?
Do you know the owners of the ones you don't have yet?

[wizardsrainbow]

Wiz, how many do you have?
Do you know the owners of the ones you don't have yet?

If I can GET at the list I have on "another site" Ari, I will post it here for everyone. But, that site is being a pain in the #$ss!

[wizardsrainbow]

Here is what I know of ownership:
Numbered left to right according to pictures on The Collectors site (http://www.stephenkingcollector.com/whelan.html)

#1 Wizard
#2 Wizard
#3 ??
#4 Pasiuk57
#5 Wizard
#6 Wizard
#7 Wizard
#8 Wizard
#9 ??
#10 Wizard
#11 Wizard
#12 Wizard
#13 AirTraffic
#14 ??
#15 Oy-the-brave
#16 ??
#17 King of Sunset Town (TDT.net)
#18 Wizard
#19 ??
#20 Carlosdetweiller
#21 Wizard
#22 ??
#23 ??

We know the owners of 16 of 23 that we have pictures of (not counting Juliana's).

[jhanic]

I own the one on the lower right corner of The Collector's remarque page. Mine is in a copy of the Artist's Edition.

John

[Storyslinger]

Very cool

[Airtraffic]

Anything new on this front? Srry for being gone so long.

[jhanic]

Welcome back, Air. Nothing really new regarding the remarques, etc. But it's good to hear from you!

John

[Matt]

Great to see you Airtraffic! :rock:

[Patrick]

We've missed you, Air!

[bast_imret]

Remarque of Oy on my DT AP:

http://emjohnson.googlepages.com/DTAP3.jpg

[Matt]

:o

That is great!

I have never really pictured him that way, kind of a stripped Lassie

[Airtraffic]

I really like those

[wizardsrainbow]

Oy is one of my favorites!

[Patrick]

Nice remarque, bast imret!

Good to see you posting here. :dance:

[wizardsrainbow]

It's been a good long while since a new remarque surfaced, either in a collection or one for sale on eBay, ABE etc.

Anybody got something to report?

[Nerak]

Wiz...I wonder if he's going to be doing any in the new book..heard anything?

[wizardsrainbow]

Wiz...I wonder if he's going to be doing any in the new book..heard anything?

Not specifically Karen. I have put the idea to him, but that was several months ago and he seemed ok with the idea at the time. I know he has been very busy with his own gallery work and been out on the West coast lately. I'll ask again next time we have contact.

[Calla_Wolf]

Hey Karen, did you get my mail at work?

[Nerak]

Hey Karen, did you get my mail at work?


Um, yeah, and I responded....you didn't get mine? You have three registered, don't remember the numbers and I updated your address.

If you don't find the email, shoot me one tomorrow and I will send it again.

:wub:

[Erin]

I love that Oy remarque! Exactly how I picture him. Whelan just "gets" the Dark Tower universe, doesn't he? :wub:

[Ari_Racing]

Just received The Wastelands, remarqued and personalized by Ned Dameron!

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/525/100_4536.JPG

[jhanic]

Wow!

John

[carlosdetweiller]

Just received The Wastelands, remarqued and personalized by Ned Dameron!


That's very nice, Ari. I like it a LOT!

How is Ned these days? I haven't talked to him in a long time. Still drawing and painting, I guess?

[Ari_Racing]

Thank you John and Bob! :)

Yes, he's doing fine. Nowadays he's currently sculpting. :)

[wizardsrainbow]

Ari-
That is wonderful. I am VERY envious! Congrats to you.

I don't need to say that it ever you.....:drool:

[Ari_Racing]

LOL :D

Thanks Wiz!

[wizardsrainbow]

Ari-

I keep coming back and back and back to look at that remarque over and over and over again. I really like it. You must be really happy.

[Ari_Racing]

:) Thanks wiz!
Yes. I've seen it already several times in the last days. It's a really lovely remarque. This one and the one I received from Don Maitz for Desperations are the ones I have that I like the most.
(it's not that I have too many more :P)

[Patrick]

Here is what I know of ownership:
Numbered left to right according to pictures on The Collectors site (http://www.stephenkingcollector.com/whelan.html)

#1 Wizard
#2 Wizard
#3 ??
#4 Pasiuk57
#5 Wizard
#6 Wizard
#7 Wizard
#8 Wizard
#9 ??
#10 Wizard
#11 Wizard
#12 Wizard
#13 AirTraffic
#14 ??
#15 Oy-the-brave
#16 ??
#17 King of Sunset Town (TDT.net)
#18 Wizard
#19 ??
#20 Carlosdetweiller
#21 Wizard
#22 ??
#23 ??

We know the owners of 16 of 23 that we have pictures of (not counting Juliana's).

Hey Wiz, it's been ten months since this post, any updates on the list?

[wizardsrainbow]

Patrick-

No, I do not have any further updates. I keep searching for these remarques, but none ever come up for sale. Well, we've seen 2 Asbestos Firestarters come up for sale at Bett's in the last month, so I am confident other remarques will surface at some point.

And then we have the LSOE book coming out soon.....wait till you see what Michael has done. Oh, boy, just wait till you see. :drool:

[gsvec]

You're such a tease, Wiz!!! :drool: Can't wait!

[e_taylor]

C'mon David ... spill the beans, you'll feel so much better after you do!

[Ari_Racing]

oH...I saw what´s comming! :)

Believe Wiz....it´ll kick everybody's asses :D

[wizardsrainbow]

I TRUELY wish I could share some images with you all, but you have to understand that it would impact very negatively on my relationship with Michael. There is no way I would ever jeopardize that. I will see if he will let me post a couple images once the book is announced. I know waiting can be AGONY, but it will be worth it. Believe me, I'm DYING to show you all, but I just can't. Instead, you can call me $%^$# for being a tease. :wtf: Also, I guess to a large degree that because I AM SO EXCITED about this book, I'm just trying to stir up everybody's interest level. Understand, it's ALL about the artwork by Michael....we all know there is nothing new in terms of the story. So if you are not a Michael Whelan fan, then there is not a whole lot to get excited about other than the opportunity to own a new DT-related S/L or Artists' Edition.

[jhanic]

From the tone of the posts about the new volume, David, I don't think you have to "stir up" interest in this book. :P

I think we're all excited about this!

John

[Patrick]

From the tone of the posts about the new volume, David, I don't think you have to "stir up" interest in this book. :P

I think we're all excited about this!

John

Exactly. You're just pouring gas on the inferno, David. :cowboy:

I do enjoy hearing about it though, and look forward to more photos being posted in this thread by our members after the big book release.

[wizardsrainbow]

Here is a S/L Art of Michael Whelan book auction. Price is much less than the $400 list price. Good value for an original and unique Whelan sketch in a book (not DT related however).

http://cgi.ebay.com/The-Art-of-Michael-Whelan-cp-142-of-500-w-original-art_W0QQitemZ110287872006QQihZ001QQcategoryZ29223Q QssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

At his gallery opening, Audrey put out a couple of these books, they were numbered 471 and 472 (neither with DT sketches), so they are getting close to the end.

[Nerak]

i was ready to yell at you for acquiring another one when I saw you posting in here! LOL

PS I have something to talk to you about...he he

[Ari_Racing]

To be received real soon (A friend of mine just got it for me and it´ll be on it´s way to my place tomorrow:

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/525/Los_Chicos_031.jpg

Everything's Eventual

Signed and personalized by Mark Stutzman (did the cover artwork of several King books) and with a really cool sketch!!

[Nerak]

arrgghhhhhh I am jealous!!!! :scared:

[Fsmdr]

That is really cool and unique, Ari. I have never seen a sketch before from Stutzman.

[Ari_Racing]

:) Thank you!

I really love it! Can´t wait to receive it

[Daghain]

Wow, that's a really cool sketch. Congrats!

[turtlex]

Very nice, Ari.
Cool !

[wizardsrainbow]

Two shots of my latest sketch acquisition:

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/519/medium/Colorado_Kid_Sketch_001.jpg

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/519/medium/Colorado_Kid_Sketch_003.jpg

[turtlex]

Very impressive. I am in awe of your collection. Sincerely.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Two shots of my latest sketch acquisition:

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/519/medium/Colorado_Kid_Sketch_001.jpg

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/519/medium/Colorado_Kid_Sketch_003.jpg

A fantastic piece. Congratulations

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[Fsmdr]

Very nice, David. Congrats!.

[Daghain]

Ooooh. Very nice!

[Patrick]

Sweet sketch, David.

[Nerak]

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5443/dscn5790fn3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Someone is going to be the proud owner of this...

[Ari_Racing]

ME!!! I said it first!!!

[carlosdetweiller]

My copy of THE COLORADO KID with a Miller drawing was waiting for me at the post office. I like it. It is not the one I thought I was buying but I like it anyway.

http://i204.photobucket.com/albums/bb54/carlosdetweiller/coloradokiddrawing.jpg

[Nerak]

It's pretty cool!

And, Ari, it's spoken for.

[Daghain]

Oh Karen, you big meanie :lol:

Nice artwork on both those, though!

[Ari_Racing]

Oh.
Not for me? :(

[Jackie]

Wow :scared: I wish i had that kind of artistic talent :lol:

[wizardsrainbow]

http://img404.imageshack.us/img404/5443/dscn5790fn3.jpg (http://imageshack.us)


Someone is going to be the proud owner of this...

Merci
Danke
Thanks
:rose:

[Daghain]

Ah, now we know who to beat up. :lol:

[wizardsrainbow]

Wizard runs for the ice packs and bandages he is going to need.

[Ari_Racing]

Are there more like that one?

[Nerak]

Not that I have found.

And you are welcome David. Had to offer it to the King of remarks first, y'all understand, right? RIGHT?!?!??!

[gsvec]

:( . . . but he already has so many . . . :(

:lol:

[e_taylor]

Wizard runs for the ice packs and bandages he is going to need.

No need David, I'm glad the "King of Remarques" will take good care of this one too!

[wizardsrainbow]

Just got some interesting news from the UK seller of the Colorado Kid remarques. He believes that he will be receiving some remarqued copies of The Green Mile Gift Edition sometime next week. Don't pester him as he has no images to share. I will keep you posted, or maybe Ralph already knows of this.

[Daghain]

Well, since you were nice enough to share that info, I guess we can let you live. :D

[wizardsrainbow]

Well, since you were nice enough to share that info, I guess we can let you live. :D

<wiz emerges from under the bed, covered in dust bunnies and cat hair>

[Nerak]

:wtf:

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Just got some interesting news from the UK seller of the Colorado Kid remarques. He believes that he will be receiving some remarqued copies of The Green Mile Gift Edition sometime next week. Don't pester him as he has no images to share. I will keep you posted, or maybe Ralph already knows of this.

:P:P:excited::nope: I know nothing :orely: sort of....maybe...ok, information coming soon.

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[Daghain]

Well, since you were nice enough to share that info, I guess we can let you live. :D

<wiz emerges from under the bed, covered in dust bunnies and cat hair>

:lol:

[Nerak]

Just got some interesting news from the UK seller of the Colorado Kid remarques. He believes that he will be receiving some remarqued copies of The Green Mile Gift Edition sometime next week. Don't pester him as he has no images to share. I will keep you posted, or maybe Ralph already knows of this.

:P:P:excited::nope: I know nothing :orely: sort of....maybe...ok, information coming soon.

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

fess up, dammit!!!!

[Patrick]

Someday I'd like to have a Whelan remarque... Just one... :(


Remarqued Green Mile sounds intriguing though.

[shnnrc01]

intriguing alright. now...how much? hmmm.

[Daghain]

I think I would seriously kill for a Whelan remarque.

Oh wait...they wouldn't let me keep that in my cell, would they?

Never mind. :lol:

[gsvec]

I think I would seriously kill for a Whelan remarque.

Oh wait...they wouldn't let me keep that in my cell, would they?

Never mind. :lol:

You could give it to me for safe keeping and I'll bring it to see you on visiting day! :evil:

[Daghain]

Oh, brilliant! :lol:

[Daghain]

And as it turns out, I did not have to kill anyone. David (wizardsrainbow) did a very kind and generous thing and sent me this:

http://www.schwols.com/Photos/d/18162-2/Whelan02.JPG

Visiting hours will be between 9-5, and if you bring beer I may let you touch it. Thanks David! :wub:

[gsvec]

What time zone are the visiting hours in? :evil:

[Daghain]

MST. :lol:

[Patrick]

Awesome. That Wiz is very generous! Daghain, you better bring it and hold visiting hours in Vegas!

[Nerak]

Nice!! And very nice of you, David!

[wizardsrainbow]

I like makin' people happy! Yippee :grouphug:

[riknofx]

Congrats to all. I love checkin' this for new art. I really miss the artwork in novels. Great platform for great artist and the added bonus and personal touch of remarques is priceless. At the moment I cant afford to add any to my humble collection but will definitely invest in at least some limited & illustrated if not remarqued copies. Whelen is amazing. I love most artwork to the tower novels but he seems to hit closest to the mind-dream of SK worlds. Really cool stuff everyone and thanks for sharing-:shoot::excited:

[Randall Flagg]

A bump. LSOE AE will have remarques, might as well look at previous artwork Michael Whelan has done.

[Airtraffic]

i wonder if there is a waiting list for the sisters AE

[jhanic]

With 4000 copies being produced, I doubt a wait list will be necessary. The only thing that could cause it to be sold-out before production is the fact that Whelan has done a number of remarques in random copies. This may pique interest.

John

[wizardsrainbow]

With 4000 copies being produced, I doubt a wait list will be necessary. The only thing that could cause it to be sold-out before production is the fact that Whelan has done a number of remarques in random copies. This may pique interest.

John

Whose interest would NOT be piqued by the chance (though small) of receiving one of these in their AE editions

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/519/medium/110.JPG


http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/519/medium/210.JPG

[Airtraffic]

very nice

[Pasiuk57]

David
do you actually have these? If so awesome....

[Rahfa]

Haha...he doesn't have those YET.

I'm actually looking forward to the chance of getting one...I'm only buying the one matching copy of the AE though...I'm not even doing a Willy Wonka and buying two - one and done!

[Daghain]

Holy cow those are COOL!

[wizardsrainbow]

David
do you actually have these? If so awesome....

Oh Mike, I wish, I wish. No, Michael shared these images with me when he was doing the remarques and told me to "keep it under my hat." Well, after the Grant announcement and update on their website, the cat is now out of the bag.

No, I will be opening my books that I have yet to order the same as you all...with anticipation and my breath held.

[turtlex]

I ordered one artist edition - and I can't wait to open it and see if it has a remarque.

[wizardsrainbow]

As I stated in another thread, I sold a partial DT set to Steve Sargent in the UK. He is the guy that put together remarqued sets of the Colorado Kid by the three artists. As partial payment for my set, I am receiving these three remarques.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/519/medium/Miller_Lighthouse_1.JPG


http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/519/medium/Potter_D_Man_Can1.JPG


http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/519/medium/Chadbourne_D.JPG

[jhanic]

Very nice, David!

John

[Airtraffic]

Is Michael going to sell the AE from his site like he did last time with added MW material?

[wizardsrainbow]

Is Michael going to sell the AE from his site like he did last time with added MW material?

Not that I am aware of Carl, and I did ask him that question specifically about a month or so ago.

[Airtraffic]

I guess it's no big deal. Besides if this one on order has a remarque, then that means I'll have to lugg around 2 huge bubble wrapped books across the world. I took the chance on most of my collection had had it shipped over. Some of the others are at my parents house for now. But I had the DT AE on me the whole time. :)

[turtlex]

Wiz -

Any idea if prints of anything are going to be available on MW's site?

Love his work. So amazing.

[wizardsrainbow]

Wiz -

Any idea if prints of anything are going to be available on MW's site?

Love his work. So amazing.

I do not know, but I can ask Audrey.

[turtlex]

I have two prints and would love to know if he's going to add more.
Don't make a special email or anything, but if you might inquire next time you're chatting, that would be cool.

Thanks, David.

[carlosdetweiller]

Remarque:
A remarque is a small vignette image in the margin of a print, often related thematically to the main image. Originally remarques were scribbled sketches made in the margins of etchings so that the artist could test the plate, his needles, or the strength of the etching acid prior to working on the main image. These remarques were usually removed prior to the first publication of the print. During the etching revival, in the late nineteenth century, remarques became popular as an additional design element in prints and were also used in the creation of remarque proofs.

As near as I can tell the term remarque applies to the printing process of lithographs of original works of art. This has led me to wonder when we started misapplying the term to drawings that an author or artist does in a book?

The first time I heard the term was when I was contemplating buying one of the Gunslinger prints by Whelan from Audrey at Glass Onion Graphics. She said that Michael would do a little sketch (she called a remarque) on the "Artist Proof" copies of the lithograph in addition to his signature. This seems to be in keeping with the above definition.

But now, it seems, I and others have started calling ANY sketch done in a book a remarque. And I don't think it is correct to do so because they are not lithographs. I wonder when this all started? I think it may have started with Audrey at Glass Onion selling the 19 (later 30) AE copies of DT VII with the original drawings by Michael. She may have been the first to perhaps misapply the term to books. At least that is my recollection.

I can't find any other venue (except TDT.com) where the term is used in this way. The Grant website refers to the random Whelan drawings in 30 to 50 of the AE's of LSOE as "drawings" and, I believe, Steve Sargent does the same in his sketched editions of THE COLORADO KID.

So here are questions for the group: Are we using the term correctly? If not, should we stop? If you believe we ARE using the term correctly...why do you feel that way?

I'll hang up and listen.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Remarque:
A remarque is a small vignette image in the margin of a print, often related thematically to the main image. Originally remarques were scribbled sketches made in the margins of etchings so that the artist could test the plate, his needles, or the strength of the etching acid prior to working on the main image. These remarques were usually removed prior to the first publication of the print. During the etching revival, in the late nineteenth century, remarques became popular as an additional design element in prints and were also used in the creation of remarque proofs.

As near as I can tell the term remarque applies to the printing process of lithographs of original works of art. This has led me to wonder when we started misapplying the term to drawings that an author or artist does in a book?

The first time I heard the term was when I was contemplating buying one of the Gunslinger prints by Whelan from Audrey at Glass Onion Graphics. She said that Michael would do a little sketch (she called a remarque) on the "Artist Proof" copies of the lithograph in addition to his signature. This seems to be in keeping with the above definition.

But now, it seems, I and others have started calling ANY sketch done in a book a remarque. And I don't think it is correct to do so because they are not lithographs. I wonder when this all started? I think it may have started with Audrey at Glass Onion selling the 19 (later 30) AE copies of DT VII with the original drawings by Michael. She may have been the first to misapply the term to books. At least that is my recollection.

I can't find any other venue (except TDT.com) where the term is used in this way. The Grant website refers to the random Whelan drawings in 30 to 50 of the AE's of LSOE as "drawings" and, I believe, Steve Sargent does the same in his sketched editions of THE COLORADO KID.

So here are questions for the group: Are we using the term correctly? If not, should we stop? If you believe we ARE using the term correctly...why do you feel that way?

Great Topic

Remarques of yesteryear's vs. today are different.

Interesting enough, I had this same conversation with Rick and Sheila Berry over drinks a few years ago. Rick did a small Queen Bee in my BlackHouse S/L and I called it a remarque, but when I called his full drawing he did in my other BlackHouse S/L as a remarque, Sheila corrected me:

In the artist field, a full page drawing is a drawing. A remarque is a small drawing, symbol, etc., normally accompanied with a signature.

I think the smaller drawings, symbols, etc. are OK to be called remarques.

But the larger pictures, full page etc., should be called full page drawings.

IMO

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[Randall Flagg]

I think that as with any word, the definition can evolve. Dictionaries have not caught up to the usage as we duse it however the new defintion could take a bit out of this one:

Originally, remarques were remarks made, in pencil, that identified the various stages a printing plate went through while in the process of being finalized. Whistler (http://arthistory.about.com/cs/namesww/p/whistler.htm) seems to have pioneered making remarques desirable to collectors, particularly in the case of his "butterfly" mark.
Nowadays, a remarque is primarily a "value-added" option for print collectors - meaning: You can have an artist's remarque added to your graphic edition, if you care to shell out some more money. (Unless, of course, the artist is a personal friend, or owes you a favor.)


Therefore I think that remarque could be defined as:
A value added original drawing, sketch or doodle, done by an artist on any medium they have originated or contributed to.

[Nerak]

I go with Jerome, only cause I am too used to calling them Remarks that I couldn't call them anything else! LOL

[Daghain]

I think Jerome makes a good point. The English language is constantly evolving, and I believe the word's meaning has evolved over time.

[Airtraffic]

I only use the term based on the Whelan's use. I figured if thats what they want to call it then that is how i'll use it. :)

[pickle]

How would one go about getting hold of one of these, i would absolutly love one.

Also how much do they generaly cost.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

I only use the term based on the Whelan's use. I figured if thats what they want to call it then that is how i'll use it. :)

First....WELCOME BACK AIR (loved the pictures on the other thread)

Back on topic:

Soooooooo, we are calling this (see attached) a remarque. I know Whelan's site uses the word remarque on some books but on the sticker of this book, it reads w/original drawing.

Again, this is just discussion. Let's get Michael on here and discuss this :dance:

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[Airtraffic]

I know that I had a long disscussion with Audrey about Aritst Proof and remarques history. She had a ton of information. But that conversation was a long time ago before David took over as the Whelan Information source. :lol:

[wizardsrainbow]

Arrrggghhh. Blast you all for being so persuasive in your arguments for both sides of this issue. I totally get both Bob's, Ralph's and Jerome's points of view.

As my leanings are towards being a purist, if I were forced to choose a path, I'd say small doodles qualify to be remarques, but what I mostly own are drawings, not remarques.

This may not make me change how I use the term, but that is where my sentiment lies.

[carlosdetweiller]

It would be very cool if, as Ralph suggested, we could get Michael Whelan to post his thoughts for us to consider.

[wizardsrainbow]

It would be very cool if, as Ralph suggested, we could get Michael Whelan to post his thoughts for us to consider.


I e-mailed Michael, and he said he will comment on the topic of remarques sometime in the next 24 hours (thru me I think, not here in person, but you never know).

[wizardsrainbow]

Here is what I got from Audrey and Michael (Audrey first):

I can only stay a minute, but my quick reply is – as far as I know none of the artists who do DT work are selling “lithographs” anyway…so using the term “remarque” for any of our prints would be wrong according to Bob’s definition. I would have to read all the info. on all the other artists’ websites to know for sure what they are offering, but our DT prints are “Offset Lithographs” or in the case of END OF THE ROAD a Giclée on canvas which is a digital print.

I’m not sure why Sheila would say that a remarque is necessarily “small.” I have seen large remarques on offset prints by many artists – Stobart, Christensen, Terpning, etc. – some were even painted – and they were called “Remarques.”

I am sorry if I have caused any confusion, but I will probably continue to call them Remarques……




and from Michael:

"Therefore I think that remarque could be defined as:
A value added original drawing, sketch or doodle, done by an artist on any medium they have originated or contributed to."

This seems wise to me.
I believe the term has evolved somewhat from Victorian times, like other words one could easily list.
It reminds me of the fuss people make over the term "gesso", which many artists now take to mean acrylic primer...though originally it meant a white ground composed of hide glue and gypsum or chalk white. They are rather different, but you have gesso and acrylic gesso. Why anyone would use either without checking to see what they are is beyond me, but I suppose some confusion has occurred. It is probably too late to insist the makers of acrylic gesso change all their labeling to say "Acrylic primer", and so it goes.

"Remarques" is a term of convenience for a sketch on a printed image.
My memory is hazy but I guess the use evolved from saying to customers "it has a drawing in each volume, like a remarque on a print" to "It has a remarque in it". The term is obviously meant as a reference, not done as an attempt to deceive anyone.

In my case, when I'm asked to do them I'm expected to do a little sketchy doodle for the "remarques" but on occasion I get carried away and develop them into something more substantial. And there are all those times when I do the drawings without being asked, just for the fun of it. I'd be fine with saying "drawing" instead, because everyone knows what that means, and I imagine a full-out drawing would always be more collectable than a doodle or scribble, if that's what a remarque is supposed to be.

MW

[Nerak]

so, Remark it is! :lol:

[carlosdetweiller]

I'm more confused than ever.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

No.... Sketchy Doodle it is! :P



Edit: I love that description. This is now my "words of the week". :)

[jhanic]

I may not know how to define a remarque, but I'll know it when I see it!

:dance:

John

[Airtraffic]

I'm still good with the remarque term. :)

[pickle]

No.... Sketchy Doodle it is! :P



Edit: I love that description. This is now my "words of the week". :)


Excerlent! I think i will be using it too lol

[Randall Flagg]

Michael was comfortable with the definition I put forward.

[Matt]

Fascinating :drool:


How would one go about getting hold of one of these, i would absolutly love one.

Also how much do they generaly cost.

I think it's just one of those things you have to be in the right time at the right place for. It's like a little present to constant collectors.

My only one is in a Joe Hill book that Jerome sent me. :wub:

[carlosdetweiller]

Michael was comfortable with the definition I put forward.

I guess then that I am the only one still confused. And I guess what confuses me is the inconsistency with which the term is being used. To put it another way: When an artist does a drawing in a book when is it a "drawing" and when is it a "remarque"?

From the preceding several posts I find that:

1. There is no agreement between the wives of artists (Audrey and Sheila) as to what accurately constitutes a remarque.

2. As mulleins pointed out there is inconsistency within a given artist's website as to what constitutes a remarque. So, if you order the S/L of THE ART OF MICHAEL WHELAN you are told "Michael does an original drawing somewhere in the book" but on other occasions the offering is for a "remarque."

Maybe my problem (and I emphasize the MY) is that I am unwilling to equate books with original works of art.

Reproducing artwork is a labor intensive process. The artist doesn't just take his painting to Kinko's and say "I'd like 200 of these on Arches paper and 200 on Rives paper" and then take them home and number and sign them. The process (and I'm sorry if I don't know the actual difference between a lithograph and an offset lithograph) involves a lot of trial and error. The artist is present and must make many changes during the process to get the color just right. That is the purpose of the artist proofs. Then the prints are (I think usually) done one at a time. The artist is most often present throughout the process and in many cases does some or all of the work himself. So what you have is an original work of art by a particular artist under his direct supervision. The term remarque relates to steps taken during this process or, more recently, an added sketch thematically related to the larger image. It is a very personal touch to something the artist created personally.

Books, on the other hand, are usually not done with artist supervision. Once the artist supplies the transparencies of his illustrations it is all in the hands of the publisher. IMO, a book is not an original work of art and is (usually) mass produced in the thousands or ten thousands.

I guess I am all for our language evolving but hopefully it evolves to clarify rather than confuse. And I am still confused as to the usage of the term "remarque" as it is used on this website. But as I stessed earlier I realize this is MY problem and not one that I mean to impose on the group as a whole or to criticize the group (or Michael and Audrey, for that matter) in any way.

[thecollector]

Hey folks,

Personally I just go with whatever the artist wants to label it as.. it is their illustration so if they want to call it a remarque then that's how I list it. Although I think we just have to accept the fact that these are rather loose definitions that will depend on the artist.

[bast_imret]

If I get a drawing in my AE's, I'll be making a post about my amazing Whelan sketchy-doodles!

[Airtraffic]

All I know is the work I did to aquire mine is the best part of all. When I show/explain what I have to friends of mine, which 90% can care less, I always explain that the book is "A limited edition with orginal artwork from the artist".

Needless to say the only thing that the are impressed about is how much David is willing to take it off my hands.....lol.

But I will be calling it a sketchy-doodle to the next people I show. And, for our UK friends if you ever come visit I'll make dinner and show off the book. ;)

[wizardsrainbow]

All I know is the work I did to aquire mine is the best part of all. When I show/explain what I have to friends of mine, which 90% can care less, I always explain that the book is "A limited edition with orginal artwork from the artist".

Needless to say the only thing that the are impressed about is how much David is willing to take it off my hands.....lol.

But I will be calling it a sketchy-doodle to the next people I show. And, for our UK friends if you ever come visit I'll make dinner and show off the book. ;)


Air-

Is the price you demand still tied to the price of your mortgage? But aren't you renting now in the UK? But then, prices there are extreme (at least in London) and in pounds sterling. :beat::beat: Now I'm all confuzzled. :)

[gsvec]

I think the confusion may be mistaking Ari Racing with Airtraffic. :lol:

[Airtraffic]

All I know is the work I did to aquire mine is the best part of all. When I show/explain what I have to friends of mine, which 90% can care less, I always explain that the book is "A limited edition with orginal artwork from the artist".

Needless to say the only thing that the are impressed about is how much David is willing to take it off my hands.....lol.

But I will be calling it a sketchy-doodle to the next people I show. And, for our UK friends if you ever come visit I'll make dinner and show off the book. ;)


Air-

Is the price you demand still tied to the price of your mortgage? But aren't you renting now in the UK? But then, prices there are extreme (at least in London) and in pounds sterling. :beat::beat: Now I'm all confuzzled. :)




Well,

The Air Force pays me 1200 pounds for one months rent. Plus 500 a month for utilities. So that is like $2500 a month. So you do the math, but yes. the old payment plan is a little higher than it use to be. lol.

[gsvec]

Or maybe it's ME who's confused. :rofl:

[Airtraffic]

It might be... cause Ari and Air have been on together for almost 5 years now..... :)

[bast_imret]

Plus the fact that Air has one of the more unique sketchy-doodles in his S/L. I love that Crimson King drawing.

[Airtraffic]

thank you

[wizardsrainbow]

thank you

:drool::drool: <down boy, down boy>

[Ari_Racing]

LOL :)
Hey Air, nice to see you around and posting again!

[Matt]

thank you

I kind of wish the Crimson King would have stayed that way. I like it much better.

[Airtraffic]

LOL :)
Hey Air, nice to see you around and posting again!

i have been busy as of late......srry...I'm here now... :)

[wizardsrainbow]

Yet another remarque added to my collection, this one from Rick Berry (a first for me):

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/519/medium/Berry_Remarque.jpg

[Daghain]

Oooh, pretty!

[turtlex]

Very cool, wiz!

[Ari_Racing]

Way cool! Congratulations Wiz!

[The Lady of Shadows]

wiz that is wonderful. seriously, you do need to start a thread of your own for just these things. i really need one more thread where i can go and look and just sigh with wonder. :lol:





oh, and did i mention jealousy? cause yeah, it's that too. :unsure:

[razz]

:wtf:

[Patrick]

I like it, Wiz!

[wizardsrainbow]

Added two more remarques to my collection. These two were waiting for me in my office this morning, having arrived over the holidays.

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/519/medium/Colorado_Pier_Miller.JPG


http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/519/medium/Colorado_Hourglass1.JPG

[jhanic]

Very nice, David. How many remarqued books do you now own?

John

[wizardsrainbow]

Very nice, David. How many remarqued books do you now own?

John

I will have to count but will hazard a guess at about 30.

[Cutter]

Congrats Wiz,

Chadbourne looks good when he doesn't try to put 100 items in a sketch, and just draws. I like both the remarques!

[Gris]

This is my Secretary of Dreams remarque by Glenn Chadbourne...

[jhanic]

I like that!

John

[wizardsrainbow]

I like it a lot too!

[Patrick]

Nice Chadbourne remarques, Wiz and Gris!

[wizardsrainbow]

Very nice, David. How many remarqued books do you now own?

John

I will have to count but will hazard a guess at about 30.



Updated count: 34

[jhanic]

WOW!!! Congratulations!

John

[Chooch]

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii189/choochspic/img003.jpg

This is "Charlie the Choo-Choo" that Glenn was so kind to do fo my 50th Birthday

[Chooch]

and here is "Flaggman" from Glenn

http://i264.photobucket.com/albums/ii189/choochspic/img004.jpg

[oy-the-brave]

Very nice Chooch :thumbsup:

[Ari_Racing]

VERY NICE INDEED! :)

Congratulations!

[Patrick]

34 remarques, Wiz. That's impressive.

Love those remarques, Chooch. Congrats!

[Chooch]

I dont know if they can really be classed as "Remarque" as these are 8x10 and 5x7 respectivley. Yes indeed Glenn is very gracious for accomindating me haveing never met him (yet) and also a big "THANK YOU" to Wizard for helping me out with contact :thumbsup: I will be sure to send him something special for all he has done for me. Any suggestions on what he might like (wizard?)

[Daghain]

Those are really nice, Chooch!

[wizardsrainbow]

I dont know if they can really be classed as "Remarque" as these are 8x10 and 5x7 respectivley. Yes indeed Glenn is very gracious for accomindating me haveing never met him (yet) and also a big "THANK YOU" to Wizard for helping me out with contact :thumbsup: I will be sure to send him something special for all he has done for me. Any suggestions on what he might like (wizard?)

Chooch, was I the one to help you? Am I having a senior moment like John?

[Chooch]

I thought you did Wizard...or was it the travel channel! May hap it was RF! Damn,now I'm having a senior moment....:panic:

[Gunkslinger]

Very nice, David. How many remarqued books do you now own?

John

I will have to count but will hazard a guess at about 30.



Updated count: 34

Well, you've got me beat David! Very nice!

I just posted all my books with remarques in the Collections Thread and came up with 30 books.

I didn't include the etchings or sketches that came separately with the books. Still I was pretty surprised with the number.

[Gunkslinger]

Very nice Chooch!

[Randall Flagg]

I thought you did Wizard...or was it the travel channel! May hap it was RF! Damn,now I'm having a senior moment....:panic:
It was I. I called Glenn and then gave you the info.
I probably should have asked him for a piece of art myself-we had a nice conversation.

[Ari_Racing]

I talked with Glenn when I was in Bangor and he was a really nice guy. I hope to meet him next time I travel.

[Chooch]

Whew..glad that is setteled. ok a big-big "Thank you" to you Randall Flagg...you have help me out greatly...yes he is a very nice guy and hope to meet him one day....Now is there anyone with a line on contacting SK?? :excited:
PEACE

[Randall Flagg]

I can give you SK's office address, but don't expect to get a response from him.:nope:

[carlosdetweiller]

Very nice, David. How many remarqued books do you now own?

John

I will have to count but will hazard a guess at about 30.



Updated count: 34

Well, you've got me beat David! Very nice!

I just posted all my books with remarques in the Collections Thread and came up with 30 books.

I didn't include the etchings or sketches that came separately with the books. Still I was pretty surprised with the number.


Feel free to count the separate etchings or sketches as "remarques." We use the term quite loosely on this site and it can be used however you see fit to use it.

[Chooch]

I still have that address (if its the same) when I sent him my Gunslinger to sign. Wish I still had that book....:cry:

[Gunkslinger]

Very nice, David. How many remarqued books do you now own?

John

I will have to count but will hazard a guess at about 30.



Updated count: 34

Well, you've got me beat David! Very nice!

I just posted all my books with remarques in the Collections Thread and came up with 30 books.

I didn't include the etchings or sketches that came separately with the books. Still I was pretty surprised with the number.


Feel free to count the separate etchings or sketches as "remarques." We use the term quite loosely on this site and it can be used however you see fit to use it.

Hi Bob,

I really don't think it an "official remarque" unless the artist has the book in hand and is drawing in it. JMHO. I thiink there was a point of contention about this earlier.

Mike

[Randall Flagg]

Hi Bob,

I really don't think it an "official remarque" unless the artist has the book in hand and is drawing in it. JMHO. I think there was a point of contention about this earlier.

Mike
We debated this as mentioned. There wasn't a true consensus, but the "new" definition I presented was:


A value added original drawing, sketch or doodle, done by an artist on any medium they have originated or contributed to.I do think it is important that it not be a stand alone piece of paper, etc.-that is an original piece of art.

Of course I am not the arbiter.

Now that I think about it, the definition could also include "author" as well as artist.

[wizardsrainbow]

Author yes! I included in my count a "sketch" that King did when he signed a Cujo I own. He did a yard sign that says Beware of Dog.

Alternatively, I did not count a King signed UK Wolves of the Calla I own where he also "doodled" a black ball with the number 13 on it. It is no bigger than the size of a dime.

[carlosdetweiller]

Very nice, David. How many remarqued books do you now own?

John

I will have to count but will hazard a guess at about 30.



Updated count: 34

Well, you've got me beat David! Very nice!

I just posted all my books with remarques in the Collections Thread and came up with 30 books.

I didn't include the etchings or sketches that came separately with the books. Still I was pretty surprised with the number.


Feel free to count the separate etchings or sketches as "remarques." We use the term quite loosely on this site and it can be used however you see fit to use it.

Hi Bob,

I really don't think it an "official remarque" unless the artist has the book in hand and is drawing in it. JMHO. I thiink there was a point of contention about this earlier.

Mike

I was just being facetious. IMO, there are no "official remarques" in books. The dictionary defines it as a printer's term used in the printing or lithographic process. The term is used on this site to mean any little drawing in a book that wasn't there when the book was published. Personally, I think the proper term for them is "little drawings" and not "remarques," but I am far outnumbered on this.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Author yes! I included in my count a "sketch" that King did when he signed a Cujo I own. He did a yard sign that says Beware of Dog.

Alternatively, I did not count a King signed UK Wolves of the Calla I own where he also "doodled" a black ball with the number 13 on it. It is no bigger than the size of a dime.

These 2 King doodles would be worth more to me than any "Artist" doodles, however good they may be.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Very nice, David. How many remarqued books do you now own?

John

I will have to count but will hazard a guess at about 30.



Updated count: 34

Well, you've got me beat David! Very nice!

I just posted all my books with remarques in the Collections Thread and came up with 30 books.

I didn't include the etchings or sketches that came separately with the books. Still I was pretty surprised with the number.


Feel free to count the separate etchings or sketches as "remarques." We use the term quite loosely on this site and it can be used however you see fit to use it.

Hi Bob,

I really don't think it an "official remarque" unless the artist has the book in hand and is drawing in it. JMHO. I thiink there was a point of contention about this earlier.

Mike

I was just being facetious. IMO, there are no "official remarques" in books. The dictionary defines it as a printer's term used in the printing or lithographic process. The term is used on this site to mean any little drawing in a book that wasn't there when the book was published. Personally, I think the proper term for them is "little drawings" and not "remarques," but I am far outnumbered on this.

I like what Audrey called them. Well, I think it was Audrey:

"Value Added Drawings"

Mulleins
Cumberland

[bast_imret]

I still like "Sketchy-Doodles."

[Gris]

Did anyone take advantage of that custom painting from Glenn that Cemetery Dance offered before the holidays?

Wife got it for me as a present. Whenever it shows up, i'll get it digital somehow and post it.

Would love to get in touch with Glenn, but other than his physical address, I have not clue how, and I'm not going to stalk him by driving to Maine (or stalk in any other way either :orely:).

[Chooch]

I would suggest if you have his physical address then drop him a line with your Phone# and email address and he may respond. Then your all set. I must say that anyone with his contact info will not reveal that to you unless Glenn says its alright to do so, not that he is totally opposed but it would be like giving out SK's home phone#....could youimagine the calls he would get...LOL

[Randall Flagg]

I just called him, when I wanted to verify the correct address. He seemed very nice.
I do agree, the best would be to send a letter, and ask for him to collect call you at his convenience.

[Gris]

I was thinking more along the lines of an email. I'll send him a physical letter and include my email address.

Most of the reason I want to contact him is to thank him for the remarque he did in the SoD and the painting he is doing of the house and family.

[bast_imret]

I find it funny that people list these for so much considering the fact that you can still order them directly from Michael for the retail price of $400.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Limited-Edition-Art-Book-Orignial-Art-by-Michael-Whelan_W0QQitemZ330299793044QQihZ014QQcategoryZ292 23QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

[e_taylor]

I find it funny that people list these for so much considering the fact that you can still order them directly from Michael for the retail price of $400.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Limited-Edition-Art-Book-Orignial-Art-by-Michael-Whelan_W0QQitemZ330299793044QQihZ014QQcategoryZ292 23QQssPageNameZWDVWQQrdZ1QQcmdZViewItem

I have no clue, and am doubtful - but if Whelan's "Dragon Art" is as rare as the seller suggests then maybe the price is more realistic.

But thats what eBay is all about. People always try to sell things for more than they are worth - and I guess, whats wrong with that?

[Airtraffic]

So...did anyone get one of the LSOE "Remarkes"? I'm still waiting for mine to check...but that's what you get for having an APO address. :wtf:.........:orely:........:P

[Patrick]

Hey Air! Good to hear from you. That topic is being heavily discussed in the LSOE thread. Any news of sketchy-doodle sightings will probably break there first.

[wizardsrainbow]

I got my shipment yesterday...two boxes full of books and not a single sketchy doodle. However, I did not get shipped 2 copies of the Artist edition. Maybe those are the lucky ones.

[CRinVA]

I'm shocked. I just figured that it was Kismet that you would receive one or more! :-)

[Nerak]

Kismet working backwards on him! He has too many already!! HE HE

[wizardsrainbow]

I can never have too many sketchy-doodles!

[bast_imret]

I can never have too many sketchy doodles!

Just a quick grammatical correction: sketchy-doodle is hyphenated.

:P

[Patrick]

:lol:

[wizardsrainbow]

><:lol:;)

[Brice]

So sketchy-doodle has become a technical term now? Soon publishers will be using it. :lol:

[Daghain]

That would be awesome. :lol:

[Gunkslinger]

Not a King item, but I have this signed limited Whelan print at home, but I discovered this one on eBay with a remarque, mine doesn't have one. Good price too.


http://cgi.ebay.com/large-michael-whelan-signed-numbered-print_W0QQitemZ170302372365QQcmdZViewItemQQptZArt_ Prints?hash=item170302372365&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14&_trkparms=66%3A2%7C65%3A3%7C39%3A1%7C240%3A1318