The Official 2018 Oscar Discussion/Contest Thread

[Still Servant]

The Rules

Oscar night is right around the corner, so I'm going to post the rules for those who might not be familiar with them. Please tell your friends from other boards to come on over and join us. The more the merrier.

You have until showtime on March 4, 2018.

IMPORTANT: Don't forget the tie breaker. It's simple: Basically, everybody will submit their choices like usual, except they will also add which film they think will win the most Oscars and give a number. In case of a tie, whomever has the closest number without going over is the winner.

Predictions have to be in by showtime, so there is no rush to post them. We still have some time before Oscar night. I myself will be waiting for the last possible moment to post my predictions.

Remember, these are just educated guesses. None of us have seen every film nominated and I doubt if anybody has seen any of the documentary short subject nominees. Just make an educated guess. Or an uneducated guess.

Returning this year:

Returning this year will be the online ballot submission I created. I think that went over pretty well last year and made things a bit easier for me to grade at the end of the night. Of course, ballots can still be submitted here.

Where it says "name" just put your DT.org handle, or designate in some way that you are from the Dark Tower boards. I will be sharing the same contest form with other friends and I don't want to get them confused.

https://tinyurl.com/OscarContest2018

Official 2018 Oscar Nomination List

Best Picture

Call Me By Your Name
Darkest Hour
Dunkirk
Get Out
Lady Bird
Phantom Thread
The Post
The Shape of Water
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Director

Christopher Nolan - Dunkirk
Jordan Peele - Get Out
Greta Gerwig - Lady Bird
Paul Thomas Anderson - Phantom Thread
Guillermo del Toro - The Shape of Water

Best Actor

Timothée Chalamet - Call Me By Your Name
Daniel Day-Lewis - Phantom Thread
Daniel Kaluuya - Get Out
Gary Oldman - Darkest Hour
Denzel Washington - Roman J. Israel, Esq.

Best Actress

Sally Hawkins - The Shape of Water
Frances McDormand - Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Margot Robbie - I, Tonya
Saoirse Ronan - Lady Bird
Meryl Streep - The Post

Best Supporting Actor

Willem Dafoe - The Florida Project
Woody Harrelson - Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Richard Jenkins - The Shape of Water
Christopher Plummer - All the Money in the World
Sam Rockwell - Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Supporting Actress

Mary J. Blige - Mudbound
Allison Janney - I, Tonya
Lesley Manville - Phantom Thread
Laurie Metcalf - Lady Bird
Octavia Spencer - The Shape of Water

Best Cinematography

Blade Runner 2049
Darkest Hour
Dunkirk
Mudbound
The Shape of Water

Best Documentary Feature

Abacus: Small Enough to Jail
Faces Places
Icarus
Last Man in Aleppo
Strong Island

Best Foreign Language Film

A Fantastic Woman
The Insult
Loveless
On Body and Soul
The Square

Best Costume Design

Beauty and the Beast
Darkest Hour
Phantom Thread
The Shape of Water
Victoria & Abdul

Best Original Score

Dunkirk
Phantom Thread
The Shape of Water
Star Wars: The Last Jedi
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Original Song

“Mighty River” - Mudbound
“Mystery of Love” - Call Me By Your Name
“Remember Me” - Coco
“Stand Up For Something” - Marshall
“This Is Me” - The Greatest Showman

Best Sound Editing

Baby Driver
Blade Runner 2049
Dunkirk
The Shape of Water
Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Best Sound Mixing

Baby Driver
Blade Runner 2049
Dunkirk
The Shape of Water
Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Best Documentary Short

Edith and Eddie
Heaven Is A Traffic Jam on the 405
Heroin(e)
Knife Skills
Traffic Stop

Best Production Design

Beauty and the Beast
Blade Runner 2049
Darkest Hour
Dunkirk
The Shape of Water

Best Original Screenplay

The Big Sick - Emily V. Gordon and Kumail Nanjiani
Get Out - Jordan Peele
Lady Bird - Greta Gerwig
The Shape of Water - Guillermo del Toro and Vanessa Taylor
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri - Martin McDonagh

Best Adapted Screenplay

Call Me By Your Name - James Ivory
The Disaster Artist - Scott Neustadter and Michael H. Weber
Logan - Scott Frank, James Mangold, Michael Green
Molly’s Game - Aaron Sorkin
Mudbound - Virgil Williams and Dee Rees

Best Animated Feature

The Boss Baby
The Breadwinner
Coco
Ferdinand
Loving Vincent

Best Animated Short

Dear Basketball
Garden Party
Lou
Negative Space
Revolting Rhymes

Best Live Action Short

DeKalb Elementary
The Eleven O’Clock
My Nephew Emmett
The Silent Child
Watu Wote/All of Us

Best Film Editing

Baby Driver
Dunkirk
I, Tonya
The Shape of Water
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Visual Effects

Blade Runner 2049
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
Kong: Skull Island
Star Wars: The Last Jedi
War for the Planet of the Apes

Best Makeup and Hairstyling

Darkest Hour
Victoria & Abdul
Wonder

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Past results:

2010 results
Heather - 15
Servant - 14
Turtlex - 14
Cody - 8
Seymour - 8
Odetta - 4

2011 results
Heather - 17
Servant - 15
Path - 14
Mattrick - 14
Ricky - 12
Merlin - 11
Feev - 8

2012 results
Servant - 14
Heather - 14
Ricky - 14
Stockerlone - 12
Shannon - 11
Thorin- 10
Mattrick - 9
Feev - 8
Garrell - 8
Odetta - 5
Mystima - 4

2013 results
Heather - 20
Servant - 17
Ricky - 15
Matt - 14
Stockerlone - 13
Feev - 12
Mae - 10

2014 results
Heather - 22
Ricky - 20
Servant - 19
Randall - 16
Mae - 13
Matt - 10
Mystima - 10
Merlin - 7
Stockerlone - 6

2015 results
T-Dogz - 20
George Monkey - 19
Lurker - 19
Ricky - 18
Servant - 17
Feev - 17
Heather - 15
Shannon - 15
Mae - 13
Stocker - 9
Matt - 6

2016 results
Heather - 17 (winner by tiebreaker - Mad Max 6)
Servant - 17
Mae - 16
T-Dogz - 16
Ricky - 15
Matt - 15
Lurker - 14
Stocker - 8

2017 results
TDogz - 16 (winner by tiebreaker)
Doc Z - 16
Tommy - 16
Ricky - 15
Lurker - 15
Servant - 15
Heather - 14
Mae -14
Matt - 13
RF - 13
Stocker - 8
Merlin - 7

2018 results
Randall Flagg - 21 (Tiebreaker - The Shape of Water 4) Co-winner
Lurker - 21 (Tiebreaker - The Shape of Water 4) Co-winner
T-Dogz - 20
Servant - 20
Matt - 19
Mae - 19
Heather - 17
John Huerta - 16
Ricky -13
Doctor Zaius - 10

[mae]

I ask the mods to merge the thread Pablo started with this one. Only so I can have the top comment to make it easier for people to view the rules, champion history and eventually the nominations.

Since I'm a mod here, I unfortunatelly can't merge them because then my post would show up first, since it does it chronologically, so I'll just repost it here and delete that thread:

So it's nearly October and don't we typically start our annual Oscar thread around this time? But the Oscars are going to be held in early March this time because of the Olympics, so we have some more time to ponder our picks. And it seems that some potential frontrunners for some of the major categories are already emerging, at least according to sites like Gold Derby:

http://www.goldderby.com/article/2017/2018-oscar-predictions-best-picture/

2018 Oscar Predictions: Best Picture

Leading Contenders
“All the Money in the World” (Tristar)
“Battle of the Sexes” (Fox Searchlight)
“The Big Sick” (Amazon Studios)
“Call Me By Your Name” (Sony Pictures Classics)
“Darkest Hour” (Universal Studios/Focus Features)
“Downsizing” (Paramount Pictures/Annapurna Pictures)
“Dunkirk” (Warner Bros.)
“Get Out” (Universal)
“Lady Bird” (A24)
“Last Flag Flying” (Amazon Studios)
“Mudbound” (Netflix)
“The Post” (20th Century Fox)
“Phantom Thread” (Annapurna Pictures/Focus Features)
“The Shape of Water” (Fox Searchlight Picture)
“Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri” (Fox Searchlight Pictures)
“Victoria and Abdul” (Focus Features)
“Wonder Wheel” (Amazon Studios)
“Wonder Woman” (Warner Bros.)

Strong Contenders
“Beauty and the Beast” (Walt Disney Pictures)
“Blade Runner 2049” (Warner Bros./Columbia Pictures/Alcon Entertainment)
“Coco” (Pixar/Disney)
“Detroit” (Annapurna Pictures)
“The Disaster Artist” (Warner Bros.)
“The Florida Project” (A24)
“Goodbye Christopher Robin” (Fox Searchlight Pictures)
“The Greatest Showman” (20th Century Fox)
“Logan” (20th Century Fox)
“Mark Felt: The Man Who Brought Down the White House” (Sony Pictures Classics)
“Marshall” (Open Road Films)
“Molly’s Game” (STX Entertainment)
“Murder on the Orient Express” (20th Century Fox)
“Roman Israel, Esq.” (Columbia)
“Star Wars: The Last Jedi” (Walt Disney Pictures)
“Stronger” (Lionsgate)
“Wonder” (Lionsgate)

Possible Contenders
“Baby Driver” (TriStar Pictures)
“The Beguiled” (Focus Features/Gramercy Pictures)
“Breathe” (Bleecker Street/Participant Media)
“The Current War” (The Weinstein Company)
“First They Killed My Father” (Netflix)
“Happy End” (Sony Pictures Classics)
“The Killing of a Sacred Deer” (A24)
“Logan Lucky” (Bleecker Street/FilmNation Entertainment)
“The Lovers” (A24)
“The Man Who Invented Christmas” (Bleecker Street)
“The Meyerowitz Stories” (Netflix)
“The Mountain Between Us” (20th Century Fox/Chernin Entertainment)
“My Cousin Rachel” (Fox Searchlight Pictures)
“Novitiate” (Sony Pictures Classics)
“Okja” (Netflix)
“Only the Brave” (Lionsgate/Di Bonaventura Pictures)
“Our Souls at Night” (Netflix)
“Rebel in the Rye” (IFC)
“Redoubtable” (Studio Canal)
“The Snowman” (Universal Studio/Working Title Films)
“Submergence” (Lionsgate)
“Suburbicon” (Paramount Pictures)
“Thank You for Your Service” (Dreamworks)
“Under the Silver Lake” (A24)
“War for the Planet of the Apes” (20th Century Fox)
“Wind River” (The Weinstein Company)

Also, from last year's thread, the overall stats, updated with 2017 results:

Heather 134
Servant 128
Ricky 109
Pablo 66
Matt 58
Stocker 56
T-Dogz 52
Lurker 48
Feev 45
Randall 29
Shannon 26
Merlin 25
Mattrick 23
George Monkey 19
Doc Z 16
Tommy 16
Mystima 14
Path 14
Turtlex 14
Thorin 10
Odetta 9
Cody 8
Garrell 8
Seymour 8

[T-Dogz_AK47]

Overall stats? :confused:

[mae]

Overall stats? :confused:

How many wins correctly predicted by each participant in total. Divide the number by the times participated for an average.

Speaking of predictions, at this point, taking into account what you've seen, trailers, and hype, what would your 10 Best Picture picks be? I think I'd go with these right now, in order of longest title (descending):


Call Me By Your Name
The Shape of Water
Wonder Woman
Darkest Hour
The Big Sick
Mudbound
Lady Bird
The Post
Dunkirk
Get Out

[Mattrick]

Way too early for that for me. I don't even know who is involved with most of the possible contenders. I guess Dunkirk would be the only film I'd say for sure is probably a Best Picture nomination.

[mae]

http://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/oscars-92-films-submitted-foreign-language-film-academy-award-1046070

A record 92 countries have submitted films for consideration in the foreign-language film category for the 90th Academy Awards.

Haiti, Honduras, Lao People’s Democratic Republic, Mozambique, Senegal and Syria have all submitted films for the first time.

The 2017 submissions are:

Afghanistan, A Letter to the President, Roya Sadat, director;
Albania, Daybreak, Gentian Koçi, director;
Algeria, Road to Istanbul, Rachid Bouchareb, director;
Argentina, Zama, Lucrecia Martel, director;
Armenia, Yeva, Anahit Abad, director;
Australia, The Space Between, Ruth Borgobello, director;
Austria, Happy End, Michael Haneke, director;
Azerbaijan, Pomegranate Orchard, Ilgar Najaf, director;
Bangladesh, The Cage, Akram Khan, director;
Belgium, Racer and the Jailbird, Michaël R. Roskam, director;
Bolivia, Dark Skull, Kiro Russo, director;
Bosnia and Herzegovina, Men Don’t Cry, Alen Drljević, director;
Brazil, Bingo – The King of the Mornings, Daniel Rezende, director;
Bulgaria, Glory, Petar Valchanov, Kristina Grozeva, directors;
Cambodia, First They Killed My Father, Angelina Jolie, director;
Canada, Hochelaga, Land of Souls, François Girard, director;
Chile, A Fantastic Woman, Sebastián Lelio, director;
China, Wolf Warrior 2, Wu Jing, director;
Colombia, Guilty Men, Iván D. Gaona, director;
Costa Rica, The Sound of Things, Ariel Escalante, director;
Croatia, Quit Staring at My Plate, Hana Jušić, director;
Czech Republic, Ice Mother, Bohdan Sláma, director;
Denmark, You Disappear, Peter Schønau Fog, director;
Dominican Republic, Woodpeckers, Jose Maria Cabral, director;
Ecuador, Alba, Ana Cristina Barragán, director;
Egypt, Sheikh Jackson, Amr Salama, director;
Estonia, November, Rainer Sarnet, director;
Finland, Tom of Finland, Dome Karukoski, director;
France, BPM (Beats Per Minute), Robin Campillo, director;
Georgia, Scary Mother, Ana Urushadze, director;
Germany, In the Fade, Fatih Akin, director;
Greece, Amerika Square, Yannis Sakaridis, director;
Haiti, Ayiti Mon Amour, Guetty Felin, director;
Honduras, Morazán, Hispano Durón, director;
Hong Kong, Mad World, Wong Chun, director;
Hungary, On Body and Soul, Ildikó Enyedi, director;
Iceland, Under the Tree, Hafsteinn Gunnar Sigurðsson, director;
India, Newton, Amit V Masurkar, director;
Indonesia, Turah, Wicaksono Wisnu Legowo, director;
Iran, Breath, Narges Abyar, director;
Iraq, Reseba – The Dark Wind, Hussein Hassan, director;
Ireland, Song of Granite, Pat Collins, director;
Israel, Foxtrot, Samuel Maoz, director;
Italy, A Ciambra, Jonas Carpignano, director;
Japan, Her Love Boils Bathwater, Ryota Nakano, director;
Kazakhstan, The Road to Mother, Akhan Satayev, director;
Kenya, Kati Kati, Mbithi Masya, director;
Kosovo, Unwanted, Edon Rizvanolli, director;
Kyrgyzstan, Centaur, Aktan Arym Kubat, director;
Lao People’s Democratic Republic, Dearest Sister, Mattie Do, director;
Latvia, The Chronicles of Melanie, Viestur Kairish, director;
Lebanon, The Insult, Ziad Doueiri, director;
Lithuania, Frost, Sharunas Bartas, director;
Luxembourg, Barrage, Laura Schroeder, director;
Mexico, Tempestad, Tatiana Huezo, director;
Mongolia, The Children of Genghis, Zolbayar Dorj, director;
Morocco, Razzia, Nabil Ayouch, director;
Mozambique, The Train of Salt and Sugar, Licinio Azevedo, director;
Nepal, White Sun, Deepak Rauniyar, director;
Netherlands, Layla M., Mijke de Jong, director;
New Zealand, One Thousand Ropes, Tusi Tamasese, director;
Norway, Thelma, Joachim Trier, director;
Pakistan, Saawan, Farhan Alam, director;
Palestine, Wajib, Annemarie Jacir, director;
Panama, Beyond Brotherhood, Arianne Benedetti, director;
Paraguay, Los Buscadores, Juan Carlos Maneglia, Tana Schembori, directors;
Peru, Rosa Chumbe, Jonatan Relayze, director;
Philippines, Birdshot, Mikhail Red, director;
Poland, Spoor, Agnieszka Holland, Kasia Adamik, directors;
Portugal, Saint George, Marco Martins, director;
Romania, Fixeur, Adrian Sitaru, director;
Russia, Loveless, Andrey Zvyagintsev, director;
Senegal, Félicité, Alain Gomis, director;
Serbia, Requiem for Mrs. J., Bojan Vuletic, director;
Singapore, Pop Aye, Kirsten Tan, director;
Slovakia, The Line, Peter Bebjak, director;
Slovenia, The Miner, Hanna A. W. Slak, director;
South Africa, The Wound, John Trengove, director;
South Korea, A Taxi Driver, Jang Hoon, director;
Spain, Summer 1993, Carla Simón, director;
Sweden, The Square, Ruben Östlund, director;
Switzerland, The Divine Order, Petra Volpe, director;
Syria, Little Gandhi, Sam Kadi, director;
Taiwan, Small Talk, Hui-Chen Huang, director;
Thailand, By the Time It Gets Dark, Anocha Suwichakornpong, director;
Tunisia, The Last of Us, Ala Eddine Slim, director;
Turkey, Ayla: The Daughter of War, Can Ulkay, director;
Ukraine, Black Level, Valentyn Vasyanovych, director;
United Kingdom, My Pure Land, Sarmad Masud, director;
Uruguay, Another Story of the World, Guillermo Casanova, director;
Venezuela, El Inca, Ignacio Castillo Cottin, director;
Vietnam, Father and Son, Luong Dinh Dung, director.

Nominations for the 90th Academy Awards will be announced on Tuesday, Jan. 23.

The 90th Oscars will be held on Sunday, March 4, at the Dolby Theatre at Hollywood & Highland Center in Hollywood, and will be televised live on ABC.

From reading up on the submissions as I haven't seen any except for some trailers, I would pick the following nine for the shortlist with the five nominees in bold:


Cambodia: First They Killed My Father
Chile: A Fantastic Woman
France: BPM (Beats Per Minute)
Israel: Foxtrot
Italy: A Ciambra
Norway: Thelma
Russia: Loveless
South Korea: A Taxi Driver
Sweden: The Square


"The Square" is looking like a lock but I would love to see "A Fantastic Woman" take it.

[mae]

http://www.comingsoon.net/movies/news/902435-26-animated-feature-films-submitted-for-the-2017-oscar-race

Twenty-six features have been submitted for consideration in the Animated Feature Film category for the 90th Academy Awards. The submitted features, listed in alphabetical order, are:

The Big Bad Fox & Other Tales
Birdboy: The Forgotten Children
The Boss Baby
The Breadwinner
Captain Underpants The First Epic Movie
Cars 3
Cinderella the Cat
Coco
Despicable Me 3
The Emoji Movie
Ethel & Ernest
Ferdinand
The Girl without Hands
In This Corner of the World
The LEGO Batman Movie
The LEGO Ninjago Movie
Loving Vincent
Mary and the Witch’s Flower
Moomins and the Winter Wonderland
My Entire High School Sinking into the Sea
Napping Princess
A Silent Voice
Smurfs: The Lost Village
The Star
Sword Art Online: The Movie – Ordinal Scale
Window Horses The Poetic Persian Epiphany of Rosie Ming

Several of the films have not yet had their required Los Angeles qualifying run. Submitted features must fulfill the theatrical release requirements and comply with all of the category’s other qualifying rules before they can advance in the voting process. Depending on the number of films that qualify, two to five nominees may be voted. Sixteen or more films must qualify for the maximum of five nominees to be voted.

Films submitted in the Animated Feature Film category also may qualify for Academy Awards in other categories, including Best Picture, provided they meet the requirements.

For the first time, nominations voting in the Animated Feature Film category is open to the entire eligible voting membership.

Nominations for the 90th Academy Awards will be announced on Tuesday, January 23, 2018.

The 90th Oscars will be held on Sunday, March 4, 2018, at the Dolby Theatre at Hollywood & Highland Center in Hollywood, and will be televised live on the ABC Television Network. The Oscars also will be televised live in more than 225 countries and territories worldwide.

The five I'd pick would be:


The Breadwinner
Coco
Ethel & Ernest
Loving Vincent
A Silent Voice


With, of course, Loving Vincent for the win. That looks astonishing.

[Heather19]

Just went to see Loving Vincent this past weekend. Really interesting film. It was hand painted by over 100 artists. Here's a really interesting article about it. https://news.artnet.com/art-world/new-loving-vincent-film-literally-paints-a-picture-of-the-tortured-artists-final-days-1091630

They first filmed the scenes in live action and then the artists literally painted every single frame. Pretty astonishing. I loved how it brought his paintings to life, and how they used his paintings as the backdrop for the film. I also didn't know too much about his life prior, so that was interesting as well, and I had no idea there might be controversy surrounding his death. I haven't seen anything else that's been nominated in the animation category yet, but I don't know how anything else could come close to what they achieved with this film.

[Still Servant]

Just went to see Loving Vincent this past weekend. Really interesting film. It was hand painted by over 100 artists. Here's a really interesting article about it. https://news.artnet.com/art-world/new-loving-vincent-film-literally-paints-a-picture-of-the-tortured-artists-final-days-1091630

They first filmed the scenes in live action and then the artists literally painted every single frame. Pretty astonishing. I loved how it brought his paintings to life, and how they used his paintings as the backdrop for the film. I also didn't know too much about his life prior, so that was interesting as well, and I had no idea there might be controversy surrounding his death. I haven't seen anything else that's been nominated in the animation category yet, but I don't know how anything else could come close to what they achieved with this film.

Good information to know when it comes time for our tournament.

[Still Servant]

I gotta say, we're a week into December and while there are still a handful of Oscar bait films to open wide (Disaster Artist, Shape of Water, Darkest Hour, The Post) I don't think there's any really huge Oscar juggernauts out there. It seems like every year there are 1 or 2 big films that get a ton of attention. I'm not seeing that so far.

That's not to say there aren't any great movies. Actually, it's the opposite, there's so many strong movies that they all seem to be on an even playing field.

[mae]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/afi-names-top-movies-tv-shows-2017-1065499

The American Film Institute has picked its 10 best movies and TV shows of the year. The titles, presented in alphabetical order, are works AFI's juries have determined advance the art of the moving image, enhance the cultural heritage of America's art form, inspire audiences and artists and make a mark on American society.

AFI Movies of the Year

The Big Sick
Call Me by Your Name
Dunkirk
The Florida Project
Get Out
Lady Bird
The Post
The Shape of Water
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Wonder Woman

[Still Servant]

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/news/afi-names-top-movies-tv-shows-2017-1065499

The American Film Institute has picked its 10 best movies and TV shows of the year. The titles, presented in alphabetical order, are works AFI's juries have determined advance the art of the moving image, enhance the cultural heritage of America's art form, inspire audiences and artists and make a mark on American society.

AFI Movies of the Year

The Big Sick
Call Me by Your Name
Dunkirk
The Florida Project
Get Out
Lady Bird
The Post
The Shape of Water
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Wonder Woman

No Disaster Artist? I don't agree with that.

[mae]

Hard to argue with that list. What’d you take out? The Oscar BP race will probably look very similar.

[Still Servant]

I loved Wonder Woman. It's not an Oscar film and it's not a top 10 film of the year for me. I preferred Logan over it.

I haven't seen many of the others yet, but from early reports, they are all deserving. Out of that list, the one I know the least about is The Florida Project. I get a Beasts of the Southern Wild vibe, which is easily one of the more overrated films of the decade.

Also, Blade Runner 2049 needs to be on that list somewhere. I'm still thinking about that film months after seeing it.

Damn, I keep coming back to edit this as I remember more awesome films. :lol:

I'm surprised Mudbound isn't getting more attention. As I mentioned in another thread, I really think the Netflix release hurts it. Either way, I'm starting to get really excited just thinking about all this stuff. There are some insanely strong films this year.

[mae]

https://thefilmstage.com/news/2018-golden-globes-nominations-include-call-me-by-your-name-dunkirk-lady-bird-get-out-and-more/

Ahead of a ceremony on January 7 the nominations for the the 75th Golden Globe Awards were announced this morning. The Hollywood Foreign Press Association recognized Dunkirk, Call Me by Your Name, The Post, The Shape of Water, and Three Billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri for Best Motion Picture, Drama, while Lady Bird, Get Out, I, Tonya, The Disaster Artist, and The Greatest Showman earned Best Motion Picture, Comedy or Musical nominations.

Best Motion Picture, Drama
Dunkirk
Call Me by Your Name
The Post
The Shape of Water
Three Billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Motion Picture, Comedy or Musical
Lady Bird
Get Out
I, Tonya
The Disaster Artist
The Greatest Showman

Best Actress in a Motion Picture, Drama
Meryl Streep, The Post
Sally Hawkins, The Shape of Water
Jessica Chastain, Molly’s Game
Frances McDormand, Three Billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri
Michelle Williams, All the Money in the World

Best Actress in a Motion Picture, Comedy or Musical
Saoirse Ronan, Lady Bird
Margot Robbie, I, Tonya
Judi Dench, Victoria and Abdul
Emma Stone, Battle of the Sexes
Helen Mirren, The Leisure Seeker

Best Actor in a Motion Picture, Drama
Gary Oldman, Darkest Hour
Timothee Chalamet, Call Me by Your Name
Daniel Day-Lewis, Phantom Thread
Tom Hanks, The Post
Denzel Washington, Roman J. Israel, Esq.

Best Actor in a Motion Picture, Comedy or Musical
James Franco, The Disaster Artist
Daniel Kaluuya, Get Out
Hugh Jackman, The Greatest Showman
Steve Carell, Battle of the Sexes
Ansel Elgort, Baby Driver

Best Supporting Actress in a Motion Picture
Laurie Metcalf, Lady Bird
Allison Janney, I, Tonya
Mary J. Blige, Mudbound
Octavia Spencer, The Shape of Water
Hong Chau, Downsizing

Best Supporting Actor in a Motion Picture
Armie Hammer, Call Me by Your Name
Richard Jenkins, The Shape of Water
Sam Rockwell, Three Billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri
Willem Dafoe, The Florida Project
Christopher Plummer, All the Money in the World

Best Animated Feature Film
Coco
Loving Vincent
The Breadwinner
Ferdinand
The Boss Baby

Best Screenplay, Motion Picture
Lady Bird (Greta Gerwig)
The Shape of Water (Guillermo del Toro and Vanessa Taylor)
Three Billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri (Martin McDonagh)
The Post (Liz Hannah and Josh Singer)
Molly’s Game (Aaron Sorkin)

Best Original Song
“Remember Me,” Coco
“This Is Me,” The Greatest Showman
“Mighty River,” Mudbound
“Home,” Ferdinand
“The Star,” The Star

Best Original Score, Motion Picture
The Shape of Water
Dunkirk
The Post
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Phantom Thread

Best Foreign Language Film
The Square
First They Killed My Father
In the Fade
A Fantastic Woman
Loveless

[Still Servant]

Shit! Thank you for posting that. I completely forgot that was today.

Happy to see Get Out nominated, but Comedy?

[mae]

http://variety.com/2017/film/awards/oscars-nine-films-advance-in-foreign-language-race-1202641490/

The Academy of Motion Picture Arts and Sciences has revealed the nine films advancing in this year’s Oscar race for best foreign language film.

Acclaimed films omitted from the list include Angelina Jolie’s “First They Killed My Father” from Cambodia and Robin Campillo’s “BPM (Beats Per Minute)” from France.

The nine finalists for nominations in 2017 are:

Chile, “A Fantastic Woman,” Sebastián Lelio, director
Germany, “In the Fade,” Fatih Akin, director
Hungary, “On Body and Soul,” Ildikó Enyedi, director
Israel, “Foxtrot,” Samuel Maoz, director
Lebanon, “The Insult,” Ziad Doueiri, director
Russia, “Loveless,” Andrey Zvyagintsev, director
Senegal, “Félicité,” Alain Gomis, director
South Africa, “The Wound,” John Trengove, director
Sweden, “The Square,” Ruben Östlund, director

For the foreign competition, the Academy uses a system whereby a general committee selects six films from the full list of submissions (a record-breaking 92 this year), while a 20-person executive committee spearheaded by producer and foreign committee chair Mark Johnson selects an additional three.

The multi-step process was implemented in the wake of the 2007 season, which saw critically acclaimed films like Cristian Mungiu’s “4 Months, 3 Weeks and 2 Days” and Carlos Reygadas’ “Silent Light” excluded from the shortlist.

The foreign committee will now select five films from the list. They will be revealed alongside all other Oscar nominations on Tuesday, Jan. 23, 2018.

Well, I was really off with my prediction. Not sure which five will make it yet. I would guess:

Chile, “A Fantastic Woman”
Germany, “In the Fade”
Israel, “Foxtrot”
Russia, “Loveless”
Sweden, “The Square”

And it's really between The Square and A Fantastic Woman.

[mae]

And here are the trailer for the nine shortlisted foreign pics:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SgDhpy9Z-NM


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UyjnzhXJlHU


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6gZw6GVf2eY


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NTHQhMW5iIE


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eLTSXawyam8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6h5GuecUU-Q


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LGwszd1otzk


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qTW2SctaLU8


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zKDPrpJEGBY

[Still Servant]

I've heard a lot about Foxtrot. Seeing foreign films seems to be more difficult for me every year.

I just got around to watching Force Majeure the other day.

[Ricky]

Guys, I just saw the future of this year's contest.

Heather wins.

[Still Servant]

Guys, I just saw the future of this year's contest.

Heather wins.

Not so fast, T-Dogz has become a formidable opponent. He seems to have gone into hibernation since the tournament though.

[Still Servant]

We are still a few weeks away from Oscar nominations being announced, so now would be a good time for me to give my picks for the major categories. I'm only including films I've seen so far, so there are sure to be a lot of actual nominees left out. This is just for fun.

Best Picture

Blade Runner 2049
Get Out
All the Money in the World
The Disaster Artist
The Shape of Water
Dunkirk
Mudbound
The Big Sick
Wind River

Best Actor

Jake Gyllenhaal - Stronger
James Franco - The Disaster Artist
Daniel Kaluuya - Get Out
Jeremy Renner - Wind River
James McAvoy - Split

Best Actress

Sally Hawkins - The Shape of Water
Michelle Williams - All the Money in the World
Gal Gadot - Wonder Woman
Jennifer Lawrence - Mother!
Julia Roberts - Wonder

Best Supporting Actor

Richard Jenkins - The Shape of Water
Ray Romano - The Big Sick
Michael Shannon - The Shape of Water
Mark Rylance - Dunkirk
Garrett Hedlund - Mudbound

Best Supporting Actress

Holly Hunter - The Big Sick
Octavia Spencer - The Shape of Water
Catherine Keener - Get Out
Carey Mulligan - Mudbound
Elizabeth Olsen - Wind River

Best Director

Jordan Peele - Get Out
Christopher Nolan - Dunkirk
Guillermo del Toro - The Shape of Water
Denis Villeneuve - Blade Runner 2049
Dee Rees - Mudbound

[mae]

I know you said it's just for fun, and I loved the film and her performance, but no way will Gal Gadot get nominated for Best Actress. Just won't happen. Best Picture or Best Director for Wonder Woman? Certainly possible. I hope!

[Still Servant]

I know you said it's just for fun, and I loved the film and her performance, but no way will Gal Gadot get nominated for Best Actress. Just won't happen. Best Picture or Best Director for Wonder Woman? Certainly possible. I hope!

I know. It's too bad because she was really good. I will say that I saw her name on a shortlist for the nomination though. I don't remember which website. It was in the "longshot" category of course.

[Andi]

I realize, after reading this thread, I don't watch near enough movies to participate in this whole thing. I watched one out of the ten movies that was listed for the Golden Globe nominations. lol

But there is no way that Get Out is a Comedy or a Musical!!! Unless you count that guy's friend. That guy made me laugh.

[Mattrick]

My predictions on nominations based on what I've seen.

Best Picture

Dunkirk
Lady Bird
Three Billboards outside Ebbing, Missouri
Get Out
The Shape of Water

Best Director

Christopher Nolan - Dunkirk
Martin McDonaugh - Three Billboards


Best Actress

Soairse Ronan - Lady Bird
Frances McdDormand - Three Billboards
Margot Robbie - I, Tonya
Sally Hawkins - The Shape of Water

Best Actor

No idea yet

Best Supporting Actress

Allison Janney - !, Tonya
Laurie Metcalf - Lady Bird

Best Supporting Actor

Sam Rockwell - Three Billboards

Best Original Screenplay

Lady Bird - Greta Gerwig
Three Billboards - Martin McDonaugh

Best Adapted Screenplay

Not sure which ones are adapted

Best Original Score

The Shape of Water - Alexandre Desplat
Three Billboards - Carter Burwell

[Still Servant]

I realize, after reading this thread, I don't watch near enough movies to participate in this whole thing. I watched one out of the ten movies that was listed for the Golden Globe nominations. lol

But there is no way that Get Out is a Comedy or a Musical!!! Unless you count that guy's friend. That guy made me laugh.

Not so fast. This is the kind of contest anyone can enter. You don't have to have seen any of the movies. When the time comes, you can just pick random winners. You never know. It's just for fun anyways. We need all hands on deck to beat Heather.

[mae]

http://cdn3-www.comingsoon.net/assets/uploads/gallery/90th-academy-awards/oscars-90-ka1.jpg

[mae]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=M3smDhUDrtk

[fernandito]

I love Jimmy Kimmel, I hope he hosts the show every year.

Best part was when he was roasting Matt Damon's performance in that Zoo movie "his performance is so... effortfull." :rofl:

[Still Servant]

My Oscar Wishlist:

Jordan Peele - I'd like to see Jordan Peele get nominated for Best Director. Get Out was my favorite film of the year and I think he deserves to be recognized for a film of that nature.

Jake Gyllenhaal - Gyllenhaal was majorly snubbed for his performance a few years back in Nightcrawler, yet the only thing anybody wanted to talk about was #OscarSoWhite. I'm not sure sure why, but it seems like Jake gets overlooked every year. His performance in Stronger is once again primed to fly under the radar.

Roger Deakins - TIME'S UP! You're damn right time's up. It's time for Deakins to finally take home the Oscar for Best Cinematography.

Baby Driver - Baby Driver is one of the most fun films of the year. It features some of the best use of music I've seen a film in a long time. I'd love to see it get nominated for Best Film Editing and Best Sound Editing.

Idris Elba - Jessica Chastain is getting most of the attention for Molly's game and rightly so, and she has a decent shot at getting a Best Actress nomination. I'd love to see that happen, but I'd love to see Elba get recognized even more. He continues to impress in every film I see him in.

Blade Runner 2049 - I'd love to see Blade Runner 2049 get nominated for Best Picture. I think it's a crowning achievement in filmmaking, but I'm a realist and I know it's not going to happen. The same goes for Denis Villeneuve. He's the best director working today, but the Best Director category is stacked this year. That said, I'd really love to see Blade Runner 2049 clean up in a lot of the technical categories like Best Visual Effects etc.

Greta Gerwig - I mentioned this before, but I really want Gerwig to get nominated for Best Director. I haven't seen Lady Bird yet, but I'm sure she's more than worthy. I need her to be nominated just because I don't want to deal with the fallout if she doesn't get nominated. With the whole Me Too and Time's Up stuff going on, I don't even want to see the backlash that will ensue if Gerwig doesn't get nominated.

[fernandito]

I'd be SHOCKED if Deakins didn't win for Best Cinematography. I mean, that'd be a snub if there ever was one.

[Still Servant]

I'd be SHOCKED if Deakins didn't win for Best Cinematography. I mean, that'd be a snub if there ever was one.

Me too, but I feel like we've said that in past years. I will say more and more people are mentioning how ridiculous it is that he hasn't won yet, so maybe that will be the difference.

[Mattrick]

I haven't seen Blade Runner 2049 yet, but from the trailers, it looks beautiful. I think his main competition is in my favourite rising cinematographer, Hoyte Van Hoytema for Dunkirk. He did beautiful work before in Her, The Fighter, and Interstellar.

[fernandito]

I'm not hyperbole'ing when I say that BR2049 might be the best shot film I have ever seen. I mean, that thing is scientifically engineered to blow you away (see what I did there). It's almost like a concept book come to life. Just beautiful.

[Still Servant]

I haven't seen Blade Runner 2049 yet, but from the trailers, it looks beautiful. I think his main competition is in my favourite rising cinematographer, Hoyte Van Hoytema for Dunkirk. He did beautiful work before in Her, The Fighter, and Interstellar.

I would agree with you about that. Let's just hope that voters assume he will have more chances.


I'm not hyperbole'ing when I say that BR2049 might be the best shot film I have ever seen. I mean, that thing is scientifically engineered to blow you away (see what I did there). It's almost like a concept book come to life. Just beautiful.

I'd agree with that too. It's breathtaking.

[Still Servant]

Tomorrow is the big day! Oscar nominations will be announced tomorrow morning at 8:22 a.m Eastern Standard time.

To watch a livestream, visit this link: http://oscar.go.com/

I will post a list of the Oscar nominations here tomorrow (unless Mae beats me to it). I will also work on the online Oscar contest form when I get home from work, as well as repost the rules.

[mae]

I will post a list of the Oscar nominations here tomorrow (unless Mae beats me to it).

I'll try :redface:

Stream can be seen here as well:


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=caCdf94Blfw

[mae]

Nine BP noms when we could have ten and no Wonder Woman? Fuck them! :cry:

[Still Servant]

Before I post the official list of nominations, I will give some of my thoughts.

I'm with Mae, it still drives me crazy that they don't just nominate 10 films but whatever.

First, I'm done with the whole Tiffany Haddish thing. She popped up overnight like a weed and now she's everywhere. She's made like one film. I thought she was dreadful reading the nominations. I also thought the little clips they played before each category was announced was stupid.

Overall, I was happy with the nominations. I thought they spread it around nicely. I thought it was great to see Mudbound get some attention. For a second I thought it was going to get a Best Picture nomination.

I loved seeing Baby Driver get some love. I was disappointed to not see Blade Runner get nominated for Best Picture and to also see it get left out of the Original Score category.

I love Octavia Spencer, but she is kind of getting like Meryl Streep where she gets nominated for everything. I thought she was good in The Shape of Water, but not Oscar worthy. The same goes for last year, I thought Henson and Monae were both better in Hidden Figures.

No Armie Hammer in Call Me by Your Name was also a surprise. He was fantastic. Of course, I knew Jake wouldn't get nominated, but it still makes me angry. I haven't seen Denzel's film but I can't help but think he's getting nominated for name only at this point.

I know it doesn't matter because Coco is going to win easy, but I'm shocked the Lego Batman movie didn't get nominated. I'm starting to think the Academy has something against Lego movies. The Lego Movie was also snubbed a few years ago.

Lastly, like I've been very vocal about, I was very happy to see Greta Gerwig get nominated, as well as Peele. Now we can sit back and just talk film. It's unfortunate that Martin McDonagh didn't get nominated, especially since his film is a frontrunner.

Anyway, the next month should be fun. Stand by for the list of nominations, rules and the Oscar Contest Form.

[Still Servant]

The Rules

Oscar night is right around the corner, so I'm going to post the rules for those who might not be familiar with them. Please tell your friends from other boards to come on over and join us. The more the merrier.

You have until showtime on March 4, 2018.

IMPORTANT: Don't forget the tie breaker. It's simple: Basically, everybody will submit their choices like usual, except they will also add which film they think will win the most Oscars and give a number. In case of a tie, whomever has the closest number without going over is the winner.

Predictions have to be in by showtime, so there is no rush to post them. We still have some time before Oscar night. I myself will be waiting for the last possible moment to post my predictions.

Remember, these are just educated guesses. None of us have seen every film nominated and I doubt if anybody has seen any of the documentary short subject nominees. Just make an educated guess. Or an uneducated guess.

Returning this year:

Returning this year will be the online ballot submission I created. I think that went over pretty well last year and made things a bit easier for me to grade at the end of the night. Of course, ballots can still be submitted here.

Where it says "name" just put your DT.org handle, or designate in some way that you are from the Dark Tower boards. I will be sharing the same contest form with other friends and I don't want to get them confused.

https://tinyurl.com/OscarContest2018

Best Picture

Call Me By Your Name
Darkest Hour
Dunkirk
Get Out
Lady Bird
Phantom Thread
The Post
The Shape of Water
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Director

Christopher Nolan - Dunkirk
Jordan Peele - Get Out
Greta Gerwig - Lady Bird
Paul Thomas Anderson - Phantom Thread
Guillermo del Toro - The Shape of Water

Best Actor

Timothée Chalamet - Call Me By Your Name
Daniel Day-Lewis - Phantom Thread
Daniel Kaluuya - Get Out
Gary Oldman - Darkest Hour
Denzel Washington - Roman J. Israel, Esq.

Best Actress

Sally Hawkins - The Shape of Water
Frances McDormand - Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Margot Robbie - I, Tonya
Saoirse Ronan - Lady Bird
Meryl Streep - The Post

Best Supporting Actor

Willem Dafoe - The Florida Project
Woody Harrelson - Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Richard Jenkins - The Shape of Water
Christopher Plummer - All the Money in the World
Sam Rockwell - Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Supporting Actress

Mary J. Blige - Mudbound
Allison Janney - I, Tonya
Lesley Manville - Phantom Thread
Laurie Metcalf - Lady Bird
Octavia Spencer - The Shape of Water

Best Cinematography

Blade Runner 2049
Darkest Hour
Dunkirk
Mudbound
The Shape of Water

Best Documentary Feature

Abacus: Small Enough to Jail
Faces Places
Icarus
Last Man in Aleppo
Strong Island

Best Foreign Language Film

A Fantastic Woman
The Insult
Loveless
On Body and Soul
The Square

Best Costume Design

Beauty and the Beast
Darkest Hour
Phantom Thread
The Shape of Water
Victoria & Abdul

Best Original Score

Dunkirk
Phantom Thread
The Shape of Water
Star Wars: The Last Jedi
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Original Song

“Mighty River” - Mudbound
“Mystery of Love” - Call Me By Your Name
“Remember Me” - Coco
“Stand Up For Something” - Marshall
“This Is Me” - The Greatest Showman

Best Sound Editing

Baby Driver
Blade Runner 2049
Dunkirk
The Shape of Water
Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Best Sound Mixing

Baby Driver
Blade Runner 2049
Dunkirk
The Shape of Water
Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Best Documentary Short

Edith and Eddie
Heaven Is A Traffic Jam on the 405
Heroin(e)
Knife Skills
Traffic Stop

Best Production Design

Beauty and the Beast
Blade Runner 2049
Darkest Hour
Dunkirk
The Shape of Water

Best Original Screenplay

The Big Sick - Emily V. Gordon and Kumail Nanjiani
Get Out - Jordan Peele
Lady Bird - Greta Gerwig
The Shape of Water - Guillermo del Toro and Vanessa Taylor
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri - Martin McDonagh

Best Adapted Screenplay

Call Me By Your Name - James Ivory
The Disaster Artist - Scott Neustadter and Michael H. Weber
Logan - Scott Frank, James Mangold, Michael Green
Molly’s Game - Aaron Sorkin
Mudbound - Virgil Williams and Dee Rees

Best Animated Feature

The Boss Baby
The Breadwinner
Coco
Ferdinand
Loving Vincent

Best Animated Short

Dear Basketball
Garden Party
Lou
Negative Space
Revolting Rhymes

Best Live Action Short

DeKalb Elementary
The Eleven O’Clock
My Nephew Emmett
The Silent Child
Watu Wote/All of Us

Best Film Editing

Baby Driver
Dunkirk
I, Tonya
The Shape of Water
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Visual Effects

Blade Runner 2049
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
Kong: Skull Island
Star Wars: The Last Jedi
War for the Planet of the Apes

Best Makeup and Hairstyling

Darkest Hour
Victoria & Abdul
Wonder

[Heather19]

Before I post the official list of nominations, I will give some of my thoughts.

I'm with Mae, it still drives me crazy that they don't just nominate 10 films but whatever.

First, I'm done with the whole Tiffany Haddish thing. She popped up overnight like a weed and now she's everywhere. She's made like one film. I thought she was dreadful reading the nominations. I also thought the little clips they played before each category was announced was stupid.

Overall, I was happy with the nominations. I thought they spread it around nicely. I thought it was great to see Mudbound get some attention. For a second I thought it was going to get a Best Picture nomination.

I loved seeing Baby Driver get some love. I was disappointed to not see Blade Runner get nominated for Best Picture and to also see it get left out of the Original Score category.

I love Octavia Spencer, but she is kind of getting like Meryl Streep where she gets nominated for everything. I thought she was good in The Shape of Water, but not Oscar worthy. The same goes for last year, I thought Henson and Monae were both better in Hidden Figures.

No Armie Hammer in Call Me by Your Name was also a surprise. He was fantastic. Of course, I knew Jake wouldn't get nominated, but it still makes me angry. I haven't seen Denzel's film but I can't help but think he's getting nominated for name only at this point.

I know it doesn't matter because Coco is going to win easy, but I'm shocked the Lego Batman movie didn't get nominated. I'm starting to think the Academy has something against Lego movies. The Lego Movie was also snubbed a few years ago.

Lastly, like I've been very vocal about, I was very happy to see Greta Gerwig get nominated, as well as Peele. Now we can sit back and just talk film. It's unfortunate that Martin McDonagh didn't get nominated, especially since his film is a frontrunner.

Anyway, the next month should be fun. Stand by for the list of nominations, rules and the Oscar Contest Form.

I feel like there's quite a few actors that get nominated just because of who they are. And do you really think Coco is going to win Animated feature? Maybe I'm biased but it should go to Loving Vincent. The film was like a piece of art. Of course I haven't seen the other films, but I can't even begin to imagine the amount of effort that went into this one. Not to mention how creative and different it was.

I was surprised but happy to see Get Out get some love. Wasn't expecting it to get a best picture nor best director nomination. Doubt it'll win, but I'm glad it's getting recognized.

[Ricky]

I haven't seen any of the BP nominees yet, but agree that some of the names seem to get nominated for name alone.

Some shockers for me: No Disaster Artist for BP, no Best Actress for Jessica Chastain, no Best Actor for Tom Hanks (does the Academy hate him or something?)

Also, for those who have seen it, was Get Out really THAT good? I still remember how lame the trailers looked when it came out. I still have no interest in it, but will probably end up seeing it since it was nominated.

[Still Servant]

I feel like there's quite a few actors that get nominated just because of who they are. And do you really think Coco is going to win Animated feature? Maybe I'm biased but it should go to Loving Vincent. The film was like a piece of art. Of course I haven't seen the other films, but I can't even begin to imagine the amount of effort that went into this one. Not to mention how creative and different it was.

I was surprised but happy to see Get Out get some love. Wasn't expecting it to get a best picture nor best director nomination. Doubt it'll win, but I'm glad it's getting recognized.

No, you're right, Loving Vincent is a lock to win. You should pick it for sure. :unsure:

In all seriousness, I haven't seen either film, but everyone I talk to has nice things to say about Coco. It's also likely to have been seen by way more voters. I also think the fact that the main character is a minority helps in our current climate.


I haven't seen any of the BP nominees yet, but agree that some of the names seem to get nominated for name alone.

Some shockers for me: No Disaster Artist for BP, no Best Actress for Jessica Chastain, no Best Actor for Tom Hanks (does the Academy hate him or something?)

Also, for those who have seen it, was Get Out really THAT good? I still remember how lame the trailers looked when it came out. I still have no interest in it, but will probably end up seeing it since it was nominated.

First of all, nobody hates Tom Hanks. He's a national treasure. I think with Hanks it's just that he's so good he ends up going under the radar. That and the fact it was a strong year for lead actors.

A month ago Chastain not getting nominated would have surprised me, but in recent weeks she fell off for some reason. The same for Michelle Williams. Actually, besides Plummer All the Money in the World really fell off a cliff. I'm not really sure what happened there.

As for Disaster Artist, who knows. It may have just lost steam, or some of the recent allegations against Franco may have hurt it.

Yes, Get Out is that good. End of story. You will end up being underwhelmed because you've waited too long and the hype is through the roof at this point, but you should still see it. It's such a timely film.

[Heather19]

I haven't seen any of the BP nominees yet, but agree that some of the names seem to get nominated for name alone.

Some shockers for me: No Disaster Artist for BP, no Best Actress for Jessica Chastain, no Best Actor for Tom Hanks (does the Academy hate him or something?)

Also, for those who have seen it, was Get Out really THAT good? I still remember how lame the trailers looked when it came out. I still have no interest in it, but will probably end up seeing it since it was nominated.

I forgot all about The Disaster Artist when I was looking thru the list. That's a bummer. I really want to see it.

As for Get Out, yes you need to see it. It's not a straight up horror film, it's actually quite funny. It was a little different than what I was expecting but I loved it. And I agree with Mike, it is a very timely film. I'm actually kinda surprised you haven't seen it yet. I do hope you enjoy it.





No, you're right, Loving Vincent is a lock to win. You should pick it for sure. :unsure:

In all seriousness, I haven't seen either film, but everyone I talk to has nice things to say about Coco. It's also likely to have been seen by way more voters. I also think the fact that the main character is a minority helps in our current climate.


I will, and it will win :D

[mae]

I hope so Heather! I haven't seen it, but the trailer alone left me astonished! I can only imagine how it was on the big screen. And while it's not technically a 2D hand-drawn animated film, it would be the first one since Spirited Away in 2002 that would win. Every other Best Animated Oscar went to a 3D animated film with the exception of Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit in 2005 which was stop-motion. So, 17 awards and all but two went to 3D films. I'm rooting for Loving Vincent but The Breadwinner looks great as well and it was even nominated as Best Picture (not even Animated) in the Canadian Screen Awards: http://www.cartoonbrew.com/awards/breadwinner-nominated-6-canadian-screen-awards-including-best-picture-156075.html

[mae]

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/DUOzmy1X0AABXFi.jpg:large

[Heather19]

I hope so Heather! I haven't seen it, but the trailer alone left me astonished! I can only imagine how it was on the big screen. And while it's not technically a 2D hand-drawn animated film, it would be the first one since Spirited Away in 2002 that would win. Every other Best Animated Oscar went to a 3D animated film with the exception of Wallace & Gromit: The Curse of the Were-Rabbit in 2005 which was stop-motion. So, 17 awards and all but two went to 3D films. I'm rooting for Loving Vincent but The Breadwinner looks great as well and it was even nominated as Best Picture (not even Animated) in the Canadian Screen Awards: http://www.cartoonbrew.com/awards/breadwinner-nominated-6-canadian-screen-awards-including-best-picture-156075.html

You need to see it Mae, you would love it. I know I've said this before but I really hate computer animated films with the look of Boss Baby. I love the more traditional animation. I really wish Miyazaki was still making films. I got my niece into his movies recently. I wanted her to appreciate real animated films versus what typically gets put out these days. And it worked, she instantly fell in love with all the ones I got her and watches them all the time.

[Randall Flagg]

I've seen 7 of the 9 BP nominees. Going to see Phantom Thread today. Don't really have a great desire to see, but probably will view Call me by your name soon.

[Tommy]

Call Me by Your Name, The Disaster Artist and Blade Runner 2049 were my favorites from last year. I saw Get Out after all the fury had waned and was left just a bit let down. Don't get me wrong, I really liked it and am happy it got a BP nom but I didn't have the life-altering experience others seem to have had.
I still have four BP noms to catch up on....

[Still Servant]

I've seen 7 of the 9 BP nominees. Going to see Phantom Thread today. Don't really have a great desire to see, but probably will view Call me by your name soon.

I was really feeling it before the nominations came out. I thought I was doing great at seeing films that could potentially get nominated for Best Picture. I saw The Post, Three Billboards and Call Me by Your Name in the same week. I also have seen The Shape of Water recently. Those films, coupled with the fact that I've seen Get Out, Dunkirk, Blade Runner 2049, All the Money in the World, Molly's Game and Disaster Artist made me feel like I was in good shape.

So much for that. I've been looking forward to seeing Lady Bird and I have some interest in Darkest Hour as well, but I truly have no desire to see Phantom Thread, despite the fact that it's directed by P.T. Anderson.

Who knows, I didn't have any interest in seeing Lion last year and I ended up loving it.

[fernandito]

I'll see anything that Lewis is in. Anything. As soon as I'm back from my trip this weekend I'll be seeking out Phantom Thread.

[Still Servant]

I'll see anything that Lewis is in. Anything. As soon as I'm back from my trip this weekend I'll be seeking out Phantom Thread.

Me too, but ooof, that trailer. Just doesn't do it for me.

[Tommy]

I guess Three Billboards... chances for an Oscar are now diminished.

How Three Billboards went from film fest darling to awards-season controversy (https://www.vox.com/2018/1/19/16878018/three-billboards-controversy-racist-sam-rockwell-redemption-flannery-oconnor)

[Mattrick]

That controversy makes me laugh. People just look for reasons to be offended. They obviously saw an entirely different movie than I did.

[Still Servant]

I guess Three Billboards... chances for an Oscar are now diminished.

How Three Billboards went from film fest darling to awards-season controversy (https://www.vox.com/2018/1/19/16878018/three-billboards-controversy-racist-sam-rockwell-redemption-flannery-oconnor)

This story actually isn't new. I first heard about it over a month ago, and it's been boiling up ever since. That said, it didn't hurt the film at the Globes where it won Best Actress and Best Supporting Actor awards, as well as Best Picture. It also didn't hurt the film at the SAG awards where it won best ensemble, as well as Best Actress and Best Supporting Actor.

I'm not saying it couldn't gain steam and impact their chances at the Academy Awards. It just hasn't been an issue thus far.

Personally, I think the whole thing is bullshit. I don't know where this kind of shit comes from. So can we not have a racist character in a film ever again without dealing with this stuff? I hate to break the news to some people, but the world is not that simple. There are racist people out there that aren't just evil, devoid of good qualities. There are horribly racist people that are inherently good people. They're kind to one another, they help people, they give to charity. They just happen to be a racist piece of trash. This theory that racist characters = terrible human beings that should never be humanized is nonsense.

I like to think we as humans are a little bit more complex than that. I for one don't want to see characters on the big screen painted with just two colors - black and white. That's not the world I live in.

As a sidenote, at my screening, two African American woman were sitting in front of me. After the film ended, we chatted for a bit and they both loved the film.

Now, I'm not saying all African American people love the film. I'm sure some are offended, but my biggest problem with society and similar instances like this, is that I don't think it's black people that are bringing this shit up. It's white people who, for some reason, feel the need to step in front of things like this first. Like it's some kind of noble venture.

[Mattrick]

Yeah, it's straight up virtue signaling. White people be privileged we can get offended for people.

[Tommy]

I guess Three Billboards... chances for an Oscar are now diminished.

How Three Billboards went from film fest darling to awards-season controversy (https://www.vox.com/2018/1/19/16878018/three-billboards-controversy-racist-sam-rockwell-redemption-flannery-oconnor)

This story actually isn't new. I first heard about it over a month ago, and it's been boiling up ever since. That said, it didn't hurt the film at the Globes where it won Best Actress and Best Supporting Actor awards, as well as Best Picture. It also didn't hurt the film at the SAG awards where it won best ensemble, as well as Best Actress and Best Supporting Actor.

I'm not saying it couldn't gain steam and impact their chances at the Academy Awards. It just hasn't been an issue thus far.

Personally, I think the whole thing is bullshit. I don't know where this kind of shit comes from. So can we not have a racist character in a film ever again without dealing with this stuff? I hate to break the news to some people, but the world is not that simple. There are racist people out there that aren't just evil, devoid of good qualities. There are horribly racist people that are inherently good people. They're kind to one another, they help people, they give to charity. They just happen to be a racist piece of trash. This theory that racist characters = terrible human beings that should never be humanized is nonsense.

I like to think we as humans are a little bit more complex than that. I for one don't want to see characters on the big screen painted with just two colors - black and white. That's not the world I live in.

As a sidenote, at my screening, two African American woman were sitting in front of me. After the film ended, we chatted for a bit and they both loved the film.

Now, I'm not saying all African American people love the film. I'm sure some are offended, but my biggest problem with society and similar instances like this, is that I don't think it's black people that are bringing this shit up. It's white people who, for some reason, feel the need to step in front of things like this first. Like it's some kind of noble venture.

It's a true sign of the times we live in when a story being a month old makes it now new. :) You are correct that it did win all those awards with that "controversy" out there but the Oscars had to deal with the #oscarssowhite mess a few years back and is knee deep in a giant scandal right now so any controversy, no matter how unwarranted, might give voters a moment of hesitation. I hope not because I really enjoyed the film.

It is a tricky but obvious argument that you give about racists not being pure evil and one I think some don't want to hear right now perhaps because it echoes the "both sides" statement Trump gave after Charlottesville.

Several writers I love have been called out as being racist, misogynist, homophobes and anti-Semites. I love Dostoevsky but he clearly did not care for Jewish people. King calls Lovecraft a "galloping racist" in On Writing. Hemingway had issues with gays and so forth. Other folks come to mind, Dave Chappelle is a brilliant comedian but has told some horrible jokes about the LGBTQ community as recent as last year. And we all know the story about drunken Mel Gibson and his Jew-hating comments.

There are records, whether in written form or audio, of Presidents Truman, Johnson and Nixon all using the N word in disparaging ways.

My father was racist and homophobic but I still love him.

So yeah, I do agree that some bigoted folks can do good things and produce beautiful art and serve their country well but it is damn hard to reconcile that truth, especially in this crazy environment we find ourselves in now.

[Still Servant]

I just think the article is off base. Rockwell's character isn't redeemed in my opinion. Mildred is just using him to get to this other guy. They're not buddies. She doesn't forgive him and the film doesn't ask us to forgive him either.

I just think we are getting to the point where we can't have any characters who are even remotely racist or the entire film, the people who made it and everyone who watches it is also a racist.

I remember when Django Unchained came out, a few writers were trying to say that Tarrantino was racist. They missed the entire point of the film. Django is one of the most empowering films for African Americans that has been made in decades.

[Tommy]

I just think the article is off base. Rockwell's character isn't redeemed in my opinion. Mildred is just using him to get to this other guy. They're not buddies. She doesn't forgive him and the film doesn't ask us to forgive him either.

I just think we are getting to the point where we can't have any characters who are even remotely racist or the entire film, the people who made it and everyone who watches it is also a racist.

I remember when Django Unchained came out, a few writers were trying to say that Tarrantino was racist. They missed the entire point of the film. Django is one of the most empowering films for African Americans that has been made in decades.

That's right! I remember some folks were saying people should be offended over Django. I also remember I saw the film with a good mix of people and the black folks applauded at the end. The white folks did not. I even sent Roger Ebert a post about it and he put it up on his forum or whatever where he would respond to people. He didn't respond to me but he did post it. :) I miss Ebert so much! I would love to hear what he would have to say about all the scandals affecting Hollywood over the past few years.

[Still Servant]

I just think the article is off base. Rockwell's character isn't redeemed in my opinion. Mildred is just using him to get to this other guy. They're not buddies. She doesn't forgive him and the film doesn't ask us to forgive him either.

I just think we are getting to the point where we can't have any characters who are even remotely racist or the entire film, the people who made it and everyone who watches it is also a racist.

I remember when Django Unchained came out, a few writers were trying to say that Tarrantino was racist. They missed the entire point of the film. Django is one of the most empowering films for African Americans that has been made in decades.

That's right! I remember some folks were saying people should be offended over Django. I also remember I saw the film with a good mix of people and the black folks applauded at the end. The white folks did not. I even sent Roger Ebert a post about it and he put it up on his forum or whatever where he would respond to people. He didn't respond to me but he did post it. :) I miss Ebert so much! I would love to hear what he would have to say about all the scandals affecting Hollywood over the past few years.

Your experience was similar to mine. I sat next to 3 young African American women for Django Unchained. I thought to myself, "Oh, shit. This is going to be awkward." It turns out, they were having a blast and so was I. We even looked at each during certain scenes out of pure enjoyment. It was one of my favorite movie theater moments.

[Tommy]

So I noticed a coincidental theme from many of the films nominated last year of people taking care of children that they were not their birth parents, Lion, Moonlight, Fences, Hidden Figures, Manchester by the Sea and more I can't think of at the moment. Has anyone noticed any sort of coincidental theme with these nominations? A silly question I know but it could be fun to ruminate on....

[fernandito]

I'm still baffled by the exclusion of Denis Villaneuve in the Best Director category. Makes no sense to me.

[Tommy]

I hope Sufjan wins an Oscar!!

[Still Servant]

So I noticed a coincidental theme from many of the films nominated last year of people taking care of children that they were not their birth parents, Lion, Moonlight, Fences, Hidden Figures, Manchester by the Sea and more I can't think of at the moment. Has anyone noticed any sort of coincidental theme with these nominations? A silly question I know but it could be fun to ruminate on....

That is an interesting theme indeed. Refresh my memory with Hidden Figures. I don't remember someone taking care of kids that aren't their own.

[Tommy]

So I noticed a coincidental theme from many of the films nominated last year of people taking care of children that they were not their birth parents, Lion, Moonlight, Fences, Hidden Figures, Manchester by the Sea and more I can't think of at the moment. Has anyone noticed any sort of coincidental theme with these nominations? A silly question I know but it could be fun to ruminate on....

That is an interesting theme indeed. Refresh my memory with Hidden Figures. I don't remember someone taking care of kids that aren't their own.

Taraji P. Henson's character has three children and the soldier she starts dating ultimtaely asks her to marry him. A stepdad.

[Still Servant]

So I noticed a coincidental theme from many of the films nominated last year of people taking care of children that they were not their birth parents, Lion, Moonlight, Fences, Hidden Figures, Manchester by the Sea and more I can't think of at the moment. Has anyone noticed any sort of coincidental theme with these nominations? A silly question I know but it could be fun to ruminate on....

That is an interesting theme indeed. Refresh my memory with Hidden Figures. I don't remember someone taking care of kids that aren't their own.

Taraji P. Henson's character has three children and the soldier she starts dating ultimtaely asks her to marry him. A stepdad.

Ahh, that's right. It wasn't a main theme, but good catch.

[mae]

So anyone with three hours to spare?


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FNAFHMyXBNA

[Still Servant]

Those director roundtables are really good though. I will probably watch it in pieces in bed.

[Lurker]

I watched the BAFTAs, and am confused. Why is 3 Billboards a British movie?

[T-Dogz_AK47]

I watched the BAFTAs, and am confused. Why is 3 Billboards a British movie?

Because it was co-produced by a British production company.

3 Billboards, was produced by Fox Searchlight (American) and Film Four Productions (British).

It is therefore eligible to be included at BAFTA.

[Lurker]

Ah. Thanks.

[Still Servant]

T-Dogz is back! Just in time to defend his crown and protect us from Heather.

[Still Servant]

The Oscars are this weekend! Let's get those picks in. You have until showtime.

[Still Servant]

The Rules

Oscar night is right around the corner, so I'm going to post the rules for those who might not be familiar with them. Please tell your friends from other boards to come on over and join us. The more the merrier.

You have until showtime on March 4, 2018.

IMPORTANT: Don't forget the tie breaker. It's simple: Basically, everybody will submit their choices like usual, except they will also add which film they think will win the most Oscars and give a number. In case of a tie, whomever has the closest number without going over is the winner.

Predictions have to be in by showtime, so there is no rush to post them. We still have some time before Oscar night. I myself will be waiting for the last possible moment to post my predictions.

Remember, these are just educated guesses. None of us have seen every film nominated and I doubt if anybody has seen any of the documentary short subject nominees. Just make an educated guess. Or an uneducated guess.

Returning this year:

Returning this year will be the online ballot submission I created. I think that went over pretty well last year and made things a bit easier for me to grade at the end of the night. Of course, ballots can still be submitted here.

Where it says "name" just put your DT.org handle, or designate in some way that you are from the Dark Tower boards. I will be sharing the same contest form with other friends and I don't want to get them confused.

https://tinyurl.com/OscarContest2018

Best Picture

Call Me By Your Name
Darkest Hour
Dunkirk
Get Out
Lady Bird
Phantom Thread
The Post
The Shape of Water
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Director

Christopher Nolan - Dunkirk
Jordan Peele - Get Out
Greta Gerwig - Lady Bird
Paul Thomas Anderson - Phantom Thread
Guillermo del Toro - The Shape of Water

Best Actor

Timothée Chalamet - Call Me By Your Name
Daniel Day-Lewis - Phantom Thread
Daniel Kaluuya - Get Out
Gary Oldman - Darkest Hour
Denzel Washington - Roman J. Israel, Esq.

Best Actress

Sally Hawkins - The Shape of Water
Frances McDormand - Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Margot Robbie - I, Tonya
Saoirse Ronan - Lady Bird
Meryl Streep - The Post

Best Supporting Actor

Willem Dafoe - The Florida Project
Woody Harrelson - Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Richard Jenkins - The Shape of Water
Christopher Plummer - All the Money in the World
Sam Rockwell - Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Supporting Actress

Mary J. Blige - Mudbound
Allison Janney - I, Tonya
Lesley Manville - Phantom Thread
Laurie Metcalf - Lady Bird
Octavia Spencer - The Shape of Water

Best Cinematography

Blade Runner 2049
Darkest Hour
Dunkirk
Mudbound
The Shape of Water

Best Documentary Feature

Abacus: Small Enough to Jail
Faces Places
Icarus
Last Man in Aleppo
Strong Island

Best Foreign Language Film

A Fantastic Woman
The Insult
Loveless
On Body and Soul
The Square

Best Costume Design

Beauty and the Beast
Darkest Hour
Phantom Thread
The Shape of Water
Victoria & Abdul

Best Original Score

Dunkirk
Phantom Thread
The Shape of Water
Star Wars: The Last Jedi
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Original Song

“Mighty River” - Mudbound
“Mystery of Love” - Call Me By Your Name
“Remember Me” - Coco
“Stand Up For Something” - Marshall
“This Is Me” - The Greatest Showman

Best Sound Editing

Baby Driver
Blade Runner 2049
Dunkirk
The Shape of Water
Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Best Sound Mixing

Baby Driver
Blade Runner 2049
Dunkirk
The Shape of Water
Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Best Documentary Short

Edith and Eddie
Heaven Is A Traffic Jam on the 405
Heroin(e)
Knife Skills
Traffic Stop

Best Production Design

Beauty and the Beast
Blade Runner 2049
Darkest Hour
Dunkirk
The Shape of Water

Best Original Screenplay

The Big Sick - Emily V. Gordon and Kumail Nanjiani
Get Out - Jordan Peele
Lady Bird - Greta Gerwig
The Shape of Water - Guillermo del Toro and Vanessa Taylor
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri - Martin McDonagh

Best Adapted Screenplay

Call Me By Your Name - James Ivory
The Disaster Artist - Scott Neustadter and Michael H. Weber
Logan - Scott Frank, James Mangold, Michael Green
Molly’s Game - Aaron Sorkin
Mudbound - Virgil Williams and Dee Rees

Best Animated Feature

The Boss Baby
The Breadwinner
Coco
Ferdinand
Loving Vincent

Best Animated Short

Dear Basketball
Garden Party
Lou
Negative Space
Revolting Rhymes

Best Live Action Short

DeKalb Elementary
The Eleven O’Clock
My Nephew Emmett
The Silent Child
Watu Wote/All of Us

Best Film Editing

Baby Driver
Dunkirk
I, Tonya
The Shape of Water
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Visual Effects

Blade Runner 2049
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
Kong: Skull Island
Star Wars: The Last Jedi
War for the Planet of the Apes

Best Makeup and Hairstyling

Darkest Hour
Victoria & Abdul
Wonder

[Heather19]

I can't believe it's already this weekend. I haven't even thought about them yet. Hopefully I'll be able to catch the shorts this weekend.

[Still Servant]

Reposting so it's at the top of the page.

The Rules

Oscar night is right around the corner, so I'm going to post the rules for those who might not be familiar with them. Please tell your friends from other boards to come on over and join us. The more the merrier.

You have until showtime on March 4, 2018.

IMPORTANT: Don't forget the tie breaker. It's simple: Basically, everybody will submit their choices like usual, except they will also add which film they think will win the most Oscars and give a number. In case of a tie, whomever has the closest number without going over is the winner.

Predictions have to be in by showtime, so there is no rush to post them. We still have some time before Oscar night. I myself will be waiting for the last possible moment to post my predictions.

Remember, these are just educated guesses. None of us have seen every film nominated and I doubt if anybody has seen any of the documentary short subject nominees. Just make an educated guess. Or an uneducated guess.

Returning this year:

Returning this year will be the online ballot submission I created. I think that went over pretty well last year and made things a bit easier for me to grade at the end of the night. Of course, ballots can still be submitted here.

Where it says "name" just put your DT.org handle, or designate in some way that you are from the Dark Tower boards. I will be sharing the same contest form with other friends and I don't want to get them confused.

https://tinyurl.com/OscarContest2018

Best Picture

Call Me By Your Name
Darkest Hour
Dunkirk
Get Out
Lady Bird
Phantom Thread
The Post
The Shape of Water
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Director

Christopher Nolan - Dunkirk
Jordan Peele - Get Out
Greta Gerwig - Lady Bird
Paul Thomas Anderson - Phantom Thread
Guillermo del Toro - The Shape of Water

Best Actor

Timothée Chalamet - Call Me By Your Name
Daniel Day-Lewis - Phantom Thread
Daniel Kaluuya - Get Out
Gary Oldman - Darkest Hour
Denzel Washington - Roman J. Israel, Esq.

Best Actress

Sally Hawkins - The Shape of Water
Frances McDormand - Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Margot Robbie - I, Tonya
Saoirse Ronan - Lady Bird
Meryl Streep - The Post

Best Supporting Actor

Willem Dafoe - The Florida Project
Woody Harrelson - Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Richard Jenkins - The Shape of Water
Christopher Plummer - All the Money in the World
Sam Rockwell - Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Supporting Actress

Mary J. Blige - Mudbound
Allison Janney - I, Tonya
Lesley Manville - Phantom Thread
Laurie Metcalf - Lady Bird
Octavia Spencer - The Shape of Water

Best Cinematography

Blade Runner 2049
Darkest Hour
Dunkirk
Mudbound
The Shape of Water

Best Documentary Feature

Abacus: Small Enough to Jail
Faces Places
Icarus
Last Man in Aleppo
Strong Island

Best Foreign Language Film

A Fantastic Woman
The Insult
Loveless
On Body and Soul
The Square

Best Costume Design

Beauty and the Beast
Darkest Hour
Phantom Thread
The Shape of Water
Victoria & Abdul

Best Original Score

Dunkirk
Phantom Thread
The Shape of Water
Star Wars: The Last Jedi
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Original Song

“Mighty River” - Mudbound
“Mystery of Love” - Call Me By Your Name
“Remember Me” - Coco
“Stand Up For Something” - Marshall
“This Is Me” - The Greatest Showman

Best Sound Editing

Baby Driver
Blade Runner 2049
Dunkirk
The Shape of Water
Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Best Sound Mixing

Baby Driver
Blade Runner 2049
Dunkirk
The Shape of Water
Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Best Documentary Short

Edith and Eddie
Heaven Is A Traffic Jam on the 405
Heroin(e)
Knife Skills
Traffic Stop

Best Production Design

Beauty and the Beast
Blade Runner 2049
Darkest Hour
Dunkirk
The Shape of Water

Best Original Screenplay

The Big Sick - Emily V. Gordon and Kumail Nanjiani
Get Out - Jordan Peele
Lady Bird - Greta Gerwig
The Shape of Water - Guillermo del Toro and Vanessa Taylor
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri - Martin McDonagh

Best Adapted Screenplay

Call Me By Your Name - James Ivory
The Disaster Artist - Scott Neustadter and Michael H. Weber
Logan - Scott Frank, James Mangold, Michael Green
Molly’s Game - Aaron Sorkin
Mudbound - Virgil Williams and Dee Rees

Best Animated Feature

The Boss Baby
The Breadwinner
Coco
Ferdinand
Loving Vincent

Best Animated Short

Dear Basketball
Garden Party
Lou
Negative Space
Revolting Rhymes

Best Live Action Short

DeKalb Elementary
The Eleven O’Clock
My Nephew Emmett
The Silent Child
Watu Wote/All of Us

Best Film Editing

Baby Driver
Dunkirk
I, Tonya
The Shape of Water
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Visual Effects

Blade Runner 2049
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
Kong: Skull Island
Star Wars: The Last Jedi
War for the Planet of the Apes

Best Makeup and Hairstyling

Darkest Hour
Victoria & Abdul
Wonder

[Randall Flagg]

I submitted my picks.

[mae]

As usual, these will be a mix of educated guesses and wishful thinking:



Best Picture
The Shape of Water

Best Director
Guillermo del Toro - The Shape of Water

Best Actor
Gary Oldman - Darkest Hour

Best Actress
Frances McDormand - Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Supporting Actor
Sam Rockwell - Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Supporting Actress
Allison Janney - I, Tonya

Best Cinematography
Blade Runner 2049

Best Documentary Feature
Faces Places

Best Foreign Language Film
A Fantastic Woman

Best Costume Design
Phantom Thread

Best Original Score
The Shape of Water

Best Original Song
“This Is Me” - The Greatest Showman

Best Sound Editing
Dunkirk

Best Sound Mixing
Dunkirk

Best Documentary Short
Edith and Eddie

Best Production Design
The Shape of Water

Best Original Screenplay
Get Out - Jordan Peele

Best Adapted Screenplay
Call Me By Your Name - James Ivory

Best Animated Feature
Loving Vincent

Best Animated Short
Dear Basketball

Best Live Action Short
DeKalb Elementary

Best Film Editing
Dunkirk

Best Visual Effects
Blade Runner 2049

Best Makeup and Hairstyling
Darkest Hour


Tiebreaker: The Shape of Water (4)

It's a toss-up between Three Billboards and The Shape of Water for BP, I think. I went with the latter. Though Get Out could act as a spoiler perhaps. Best foreign pic was The Square all along since Cannes but A Fantastic Woman has been picking up steam the more people seen it. An amazing performance by the lead actress that could have been nominated as Best Actress in all honesty. But the Academy rarely does for foreign films. The shorts are always a crapshoot for me. And the animated is a personal pick, since Coco will win but dammit Loving Vincent is just such an astounding and awe-inspiring achievement, maybe I can wish it into winning!

[Still Servant]

I submitted my picks.

I got it!

I, as usual, will wait until the last possible second to make my picks.

[Heather19]

It's a toss-up between Three Billboards and The Shape of Water for BP, I think. I went with the latter. Though Get Out could act as a spoiler perhaps. Best foreign pic was The Square all along since Cannes but A Fantastic Woman has been picking up steam the more people seen it. An amazing performance by the lead actress that could have been nominated as Best Actress in all honesty. But the Academy rarely does for foreign films. The shorts are always a crapshoot for me. And the animated is a personal pick, since Coco will win but dammit Loving Vincent is just such an astounding and awe-inspiring achievement, maybe I can wish it into winning!


Loving Vincent should really win. Granted I haven't seen Coco, so maybe I shouldn't quite say that, but Loving Vincent was pure art. Everyone seems to think Coco will win, but I really hope somehow Loving Vincent can pull off an upset here. I really wish more people saw it.

[Mattrick]

I don't think those artsy animated movies will ever win. The animated movie is really the popular choice every time. I don't give that award much credence for that reason.

I'm watching Phantom Thread and Blade Runner 2049 this weekend and then I'm submitting, though I'm picking Deakins to finally win his oscar regardless.

[Ricky]

I'm having a hard time picking the score/song categories. :panic:

[Mattrick]

Score is easy. There's only one clear winner for me.

[Tommy]

Faye Dunaway and Warren Beatty are presenting Best Picture again. :panic:

[Heather19]

I don't think those artsy animated movies will ever win. The animated movie is really the popular choice every time. I don't give that award much credence for that reason.

I'm watching Phantom Thread and Blade Runner 2049 this weekend and then I'm submitting, though I'm picking Deakins to finally win his oscar regardless.

You're probably right. It really is a shame though. Also isn't Coco Pixar? And Pixar is usually hard to beat for some reason. I just can't even begin to imagine all the time and effort that went in to creating Loving Vincent. It's such a beautiful film.



Faye Dunaway and Warren Beatty are presenting Best Picture again. :panic:

For real? Oh no :lol:


I'm off to see the shorts tonight. Hope there's some good ones this year. I'll get my picks in tomorrow morning.

[Mattrick]

I think the Academy as a whole just has a hard on for CGI. The only time a non-CGI animated film won the award was Spirited Away back in 2002. Actually, I'm incorrect since Wallace and Gromit won too and that's stop-motion, but Spirit Away is the only traditionally animated film to have ever won the award. Loving Vincent does look great. They're generally all kids/family films too. Loving Vincent really stands out since it's not a kid's movie. I loved in Inside Out, but I'm still upset and Anamolisa didn't win, not just because it was great, but because it's the only R rated film to ever be nominated for the award.

[Heather19]

So I went to see the Oscar shorts last night. The live action ones were all good. My favorite one was The Eleven O'Clock. It was the only funny lighthearted one of the bunch. That said, with the heaviness of the others I doubt this one has a chance at winning. But at least it was enjoyable to watch. The Silent Child was also very good.

The animated shorts on the other hand... I did not care for any of them. I have a really hard time believing that these are the best of the bunch.

[Heather19]

I just submitted my picks. For email, I put in mine, should I have put in yours?

[T-Dogz_AK47]

I'm going to post my picks on this thread, for transparency.

[Still Servant]

I just submitted my picks. For email, I put in mine, should I have put in yours?

Nope. You did it right. You're supposed to put your email in, that way you can get sent an email back with your picks.


I'm going to post my picks on this thread, for transparency.

I will also be posting my picks here. I fill out an online form too, but people can do either or. I will say that filling out the online ballot makes things a tad easier at the end of the night. I use Google Forms to create the ballot and you can download an Excel like file with all the picks for each category. It makes it a lot easier to score. But you DO NOT have to fill out the online form if you posted your pics here.

Anyway, tonight is the big night. You have until showtime to post your picks here or submit an online ballot here https://tinyurl.com/OscarContest2018

The players so far:

Matt
Heather
Randall Flagg
John Huerta
Lurker
Doctor Zaius
Mae

[Ricky]

Will be posting mine soon.

[Mattrick]

I'm going to post mine in here...I'll do the other submission later, but you'll see they're the same. I just don't have time to do several submissions for various pools lol

Also, Bold is my pick to win, and anything in italics is my personal choice...if it's both, it's both.

Best Picture

Call Me By Your Name
Darkest Hour
Dunkirk
Get Out
Lady Bird
Phantom Thread
The Post
The Shape of Water
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Director

Christopher Nolan - Dunkirk
Jordan Peele - Get Out
Greta Gerwig - Lady Bird
Paul Thomas Anderson - Phantom Thread
Guillermo del Toro - The Shape of Water

Best Actor

Timothée Chalamet - Call Me By Your Name
Daniel Day-Lewis - Phantom Thread
Daniel Kaluuya - Get Out
Gary Oldman - Darkest Hour
Denzel Washington - Roman J. Israel, Esq.

Best Actress

Sally Hawkins - The Shape of Water
Frances McDormand - Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Margot Robbie - I, Tonya
Saoirse Ronan - Lady Bird
Meryl Streep - The Post

Best Supporting Actor

Willem Dafoe - The Florida Project
Woody Harrelson - Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Richard Jenkins - The Shape of Water
Christopher Plummer - All the Money in the World
Sam Rockwell - Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Supporting Actress

Mary J. Blige - Mudbound
Allison Janney - I, Tonya
Lesley Manville - Phantom Thread
Laurie Metcalf - Lady Bird
Octavia Spencer - The Shape of Water

Best Cinematography

Blade Runner 2049
Darkest Hour
Dunkirk
Mudbound
The Shape of Water

Best Documentary Feature

Abacus: Small Enough to Jail
Faces Places
Icarus
Last Man in Aleppo
Strong Island

Best Foreign Language Film

A Fantastic Woman
The Insult
Loveless
On Body and Soul
The Square

Best Costume Design

Beauty and the Beast
Darkest Hour
Phantom Thread
The Shape of Water
Victoria & Abdul

Best Original Score

Dunkirk
Phantom Thread
The Shape of Water
Star Wars: The Last Jedi
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Original Song

“Mighty River” - Mudbound
“Mystery of Love” - Call Me By Your Name
“Remember Me” - Coco
“Stand Up For Something” - Marshall
“This Is Me” - The Greatest Showman

Best Sound Editing

Baby Driver
Blade Runner 2049
Dunkirk
The Shape of Water
Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Best Sound Mixing

Baby Driver
Blade Runner 2049
Dunkirk
The Shape of Water
Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Best Documentary Short

Edith and Eddie
Heaven Is A Traffic Jam on the 405
Heroin(e)
Knife Skills
Traffic Stop

Best Production Design

Beauty and the Beast
Blade Runner 2049
Darkest Hour
Dunkirk
The Shape of Water

Best Original Screenplay

The Big Sick - Emily V. Gordon and Kumail Nanjiani
Get Out - Jordan Peele
Lady Bird - Greta Gerwig
The Shape of Water - Guillermo del Toro and Vanessa Taylor
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri - Martin McDonagh

Best Adapted Screenplay

Call Me By Your Name - James Ivory
The Disaster Artist - Scott Neustadter and Michael H. Weber
Logan - Scott Frank, James Mangold, Michael Green
Molly’s Game - Aaron Sorkin
Mudbound - Virgil Williams and Dee Rees

Best Animated Feature

The Boss Baby
The Breadwinner
Coco
Ferdinand
Loving Vincent

Best Animated Short

Dear Basketball
Garden Party
Lou
Negative Space
Revolting Rhymes

Best Live Action Short

DeKalb Elementary
The Eleven O’Clock
My Nephew Emmett
The Silent Child
Watu Wote/All of Us

Best Film Editing

Baby Driver
Dunkirk
I, Tonya
The Shape of Water
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Visual Effects

Blade Runner 2049
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
Kong: Skull Island
Star Wars: The Last Jedi
War for the Planet of the Apes

Best Makeup and Hairstyling

Darkest Hour
Victoria & Abdul
Wonder

[T-Dogz_AK47]

Here are my picks....

Best Picture
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Director
Guillermo del Toro (The Shape of Water)

Best Actor
Gary Oldman (Darkest Hour)

Best Actress
Frances McDormand (Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri)

Best Supporting Actor
Sam Rockwell (Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri)

Best Supporting Actress
Allison Janney (I, Tonya)

Best Cinematography
Blade Runner 2049

Best Documentary Feature
Faces Places

Best Foreign Language Film
A Fantastic Woman

Best Costume Design
Phantom Thread

Best Original Score
The Shape of Water

Best Original Song
“Remember Me” (Coco)

Best Sound Editing
Dunkirk

Best Sound Mixing
Dunkirk

Best Documentary Short
Edith and Eddie

Best Production Design
The Shape of Water

Best Original Screenplay
Jordan Peele (Get Out)

Best Adapted Screenplay
James Ivory (Call Me By Your Name)

Best Animated Feature
Coco

Best Animated Short
Dear Basketball

Best Live Action Short
DeKalb Elementary

Best Film Editing
Dunkirk

Best Visual Effects
Blade Runner 2049

Best Makeup and Hairstyling
Darkest Hour


Tiebreaker: The Academy will share the love this year, with 3 films all winning 3 Oscars....

Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Best Picture, Best Actress and Best Supporting Actor

The Shape of Water
Best Director, Best Production Design and Best Original Score

Dunkirk
Best Film Editing, Best Sound Editing and Best Sound Mixing

[Still Servant]

Best Picture

Call Me By Your Name
Darkest Hour
Dunkirk
Get Out
Lady Bird
Phantom Thread
The Post
The Shape of Water
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Director

Christopher Nolan - Dunkirk
Jordan Peele - Get Out
Greta Gerwig - Lady Bird
Paul Thomas Anderson - Phantom Thread
Guillermo del Toro - The Shape of Water

Best Actor

Timothée Chalamet - Call Me By Your Name
Daniel Day-Lewis - Phantom Thread
Daniel Kaluuya - Get Out
Gary Oldman - Darkest Hour
Denzel Washington - Roman J. Israel, Esq.

Best Actress

Sally Hawkins - The Shape of Water
Frances McDormand - Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Margot Robbie - I, Tonya
Saoirse Ronan - Lady Bird
Meryl Streep - The Post

Best Supporting Actor

Willem Dafoe - The Florida Project
Woody Harrelson - Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri
Richard Jenkins - The Shape of Water
Christopher Plummer - All the Money in the World
Sam Rockwell - Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Supporting Actress

Mary J. Blige - Mudbound
Allison Janney - I, Tonya
Lesley Manville - Phantom Thread
Laurie Metcalf - Lady Bird
Octavia Spencer - The Shape of Water

Best Cinematography

Blade Runner 2049
Darkest Hour
Dunkirk
Mudbound
The Shape of Water

Best Documentary Feature

Abacus: Small Enough to Jail
Faces Places
Icarus
Last Man in Aleppo
Strong Island

Best Foreign Language Film

A Fantastic Woman
The Insult
Loveless
On Body and Soul
The Square

Best Costume Design

Beauty and the Beast
Darkest Hour
Phantom Thread
The Shape of Water
Victoria & Abdul

Best Original Score

Dunkirk
Phantom Thread
The Shape of Water
Star Wars: The Last Jedi
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Original Song

“Mighty River” - Mudbound
“Mystery of Love” - Call Me By Your Name
“Remember Me” - Coco
“Stand Up For Something” - Marshall
“This Is Me” - The Greatest Showman

Best Sound Editing

Baby Driver
Blade Runner 2049
Dunkirk
The Shape of Water
Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Best Sound Mixing

Baby Driver
Blade Runner 2049
Dunkirk
The Shape of Water
Star Wars: The Last Jedi

Best Documentary Short

Edith and Eddie
Heaven Is A Traffic Jam on the 405
Heroin(e)
Knife Skills
Traffic Stop

Best Production Design

Beauty and the Beast
Blade Runner 2049
Darkest Hour
Dunkirk
The Shape of Water

Best Original Screenplay

The Big Sick - Emily V. Gordon and Kumail Nanjiani
Get Out - Jordan Peele
Lady Bird - Greta Gerwig
The Shape of Water - Guillermo del Toro and Vanessa Taylor
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri - Martin McDonagh

Best Adapted Screenplay

Call Me By Your Name - James Ivory
The Disaster Artist - Scott Neustadter and Michael H. Weber
Logan - Scott Frank, James Mangold, Michael Green
Molly’s Game - Aaron Sorkin
Mudbound - Virgil Williams and Dee Rees

Best Animated Feature

The Boss Baby
The Breadwinner
Coco
Ferdinand
Loving Vincent

Best Animated Short

Dear Basketball
Garden Party
Lou
Negative Space
Revolting Rhymes

Best Live Action Short

DeKalb Elementary
The Eleven O’Clock
My Nephew Emmett
The Silent Child
Watu Wote/All of Us

Best Film Editing

Baby Driver
Dunkirk
I, Tonya
The Shape of Water
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Visual Effects

Blade Runner 2049
Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2
Kong: Skull Island
Star Wars: The Last Jedi
War for the Planet of the Apes

Best Makeup and Hairstyling

Darkest Hour
Victoria & Abdul
Wonder

Tiebreaker: The Shape of Water - 4

[Mattrick]

Not sure why I can't edit my post...Shape of Water (3) tie breaker.

[Lookwhoitis]

Happy Oscar night! My fave is Three Billboards (although i really dug Shape of Water too!)

[Still Servant]

Happy Oscar night! My fave is Three Billboards (although i really dug Shape of Water too!)

You're not going to make your picks?

Less than an hour until showtime.

The players so far:

Servant
Matt
Heather
Randall Flagg
John Huerta
Lurker
Doctor Zaius
Mae
T-Dogz

[Heather19]

Here's my picks:

Best Picture
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Director
Guillermo del Toro - The Shape of Water

Best Actor
Gary Oldman - Darkest Hour

Best Actress
Frances McDormand - Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Supporting Actor
Sam Rockwell - Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Supporting Actress
Allison Janney - I, Tonya

Best Cinematography
Blade Runner 2049

Best Documentary Feature
Faces Places

Best Foreign Language Film
A Fantastic Woman

Best Costume Design
Phantom Thread

Best Original Score
The Shape of Water

Best Original Song
“Remember Me” - Coco

Best Sound Editing
Dunkirk

Best Sound Mixing
Dunkirk

Best Documentary Short
Heroin(e)

Best Production Design
The Shape of Water

Best Original Screenplay
Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri - Martin McDonagh

Best Adapted Screenplay
Call Me By Your Name - James Ivory

Best Animated Feature
Coco

Best Animated Short
Lou

Best Live Action Short
The Silent Child

Best Film Editing
Baby Driver

Best Visual Effects
War for the Planet of the Apes

Best Makeup and Hairstyling
Darkest Hour

Tiebraker: 4 - Three Billboards


I know I didn't pick Get Out for anything, but I really do hope that it wins something.

[Lurker]

I can do transparent:

Best Picture
The Shape of Water

Best Director
Guillermo del Toro - The Shape of Water

Best Actor
Gary Oldman - Darkest Hour

Best Actress
Frances McDormand - Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Supporting Actor
Sam Rockwell - Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Supporting Actress
Allison Janney - I, Tonya

Best Cinematography
Blade Runner 2049

Best Documentary Feature
Icarus

Best Foreign Language Film
A Fantastic Woman

Best Costume Design
Phantom Thread

Best Original Score
The Shape of Water

Best Original Song
“Remember Me” - Coco

Best Sound Editing
Dunkirk

Best Sound Mixing
Dunkirk

Best Documentary Short
Heroin(e)

Best Production Design
The Shape of Water

Best Original Screenplay
Get Out - Jordan Peele

Best Adapted Screenplay
Call Me By Your Name - James Ivory

Best Animated Feature
Coco

Best Animated Short
Dear Basketball

Best Live Action Short
DeKalb Elementary

Best Film Editing
Dunkirk

Best Visual Effects
War for the Planet of the Apes

Best Makeup and Hairstyling
Darkest Hour

Can March Madness be far behind?

[Ricky]

Best Picture

Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Director

Guillermo del Toro - The Shape of Water

Best Actor

Gary Oldman - Darkest Hour

Best Actress

Frances McDormand - Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Supporting Actor

Sam Rockwell - Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri

Best Supporting Actress

Allison Janney - I, Tonya

Best Cinematography

Blade Runner 2049

Best Documentary Feature

Faces Places

Best Foreign Language Film

Loveless

Best Costume Design

Phantom Thread

Best Original Score

Phantom Thread

Best Original Song

“This Is Me” - The Greatest Showman

Best Sound Editing

Dunkirk

Best Sound Mixing

Baby Driver

Best Documentary Short

Heroin(e)

Best Production Design

The Shape of Water

Best Original Screenplay

Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri - Martin McDonagh

Best Adapted Screenplay

Call Me By Your Name - James Ivory

Best Animated Feature

Coco

Best Animated Short

Revolting Rhymes

Best Live Action Short

DeKalb Elementary

Best Film Editing

Dunkirk

Best Visual Effects

War for the Planet of the Apes

Best Makeup and Hairstyling

Darkest Hour

Tie-breaker: Three Billboards Outside Ebbing, Missouri (4)

Whew! Talk about cutting it close. Aside from the shorts and foreign categories, I was super indecisive (in a lot of cases being stuck between two) about score, original screenplay, and production design. There's quite a few of categories, especially original screenplay, that could be wide open.

Good luck everyone!

[Still Servant]

Ricky is in! Now it's a party!

[Still Servant]

Another Feverless year. :(

The Players:

Servant
Matt
Heather
Randall Flagg
John Huerta
Lurker
Doctor Zaius
Mae
T-Dogz
Ricky

[mae]

Wow but that pink dress!

[Still Servant]

Well, it was a fun night. I'm going to keep this short, it's pretty late.

We have made history! Once again we have a tie! Lurker and Randall Flagg each tied with 21. We have to go to our tiebreaker again. The crazy part is that both Lurker and RF picked Shape of Water to win 4 Oscars. Since we have no other tiebreaker in place. We must crown co-winners. Congrats to Lurker and RF! Awesome score by you guys and a strong showing by the group as a whole. It's late, so please double check your scores.

2018 results
Randall Flagg - 21 (Tiebreaker - The Shape of Water 4) Co-winner
Lurker - 21 (Tiebreaker - The Shape of Water 4) Co-winner
T-Dogz - 20
Servant - 20
Matt - 19
Mae - 19
Heather - 17
John Huerta - 16
Ricky -13
Doctor Zaius - 10

[Heather19]

Wow, 21, that's awesome guys!

I'm so happy that Jordan Peele won screenplay for Get Out. I was really rooting for him to get something. Get Out isn't your typical award type film, so I'm glad they honored it. Also very happy that Shape of Water won Best Picture. I'll have to look back but I think this might be the first year in quite awhile that both director and film have won. Usually it's one or the other. I'm also a huge fan of Guillermo Del Toro, so it's nice to see him win something.

[mae]

I really enjoyed the broadcast itself. Quite a few fun and funny lines by Jimmy and some really straight-talk kinda stuff that I liked as well. Didn't agree with some of the winners, such as Song ("This Is Me" is clearly the best song of the bunch and has sorta become a queer anthem really quickly) and Animated (but I knew Coco was gonna win, so I actually sacrificed a point to make... a point). Congrats to our two winners! This was a fun night.

P.S.: It was a big night for trans folks with the beautiful Daniela Vega introducing and her wonderful Fantastic Woman winning the foreign Oscar. But Jimmy coming out as trans was the nightlight of the night! :P

[Mattrick]

Wow, 21, that's awesome guys!

I'm so happy that Jordan Peele won screenplay for Get Out. I was really rooting for him to get something. Get Out isn't your typical award type film, so I'm glad they honored it. Also very happy that Shape of Water won Best Picture. I'll have to look back but I think this might be the first year in quite awhile that both director and film have won. Usually it's one or the other. I'm also a huge fan of Guillermo Del Toro, so it's nice to see him win something.

I believe the last time Picture/Director went to the same film was The Artist. That's after a long string of the same film winning both. You'd have to go back to 2006 for those two awards to be split with Crash/Brokeback Mountain. It's interesting that it was only split 4 times in about 13 years, and then it was split for 5 straight years.

[Lurker]

Wow. I'm shocked. Those damn shorts got me!

Thanks for having the contest and see you next year...

[Randall Flagg]

Wow. I'm shocked. Those damn shorts got me!

Thanks for having the contest and see you next year...
I agree. I viewed 8/9 Best Picture nominees, but not a single short.

[Ricky]

Congrats to our co-winners! 21 is definitely an impressive score. I was unsure about a lot of the categories (which, on the other hand, made it more fun watching) which resulted in my lowest score since--ouch!--2011!

As for the show as a whole, I wasn't really impressed. I thought Jimmy had better jokes and bits last year (I thought they'd cut back to the theater a couple times, so it was a little lame that they only handed out candy without any real interaction). I did like the stage set-up, though. It was pretty different.

Two things I say every year but I'm gonna say again:

- We need an Oscars broadcast more focused on film and the magic of movies! The pre-requisite montages ain't gonna cut it anymore!

- Lengthen the "official" time! They started at 8:00 instead of 8:30 this year and it still ran over by almost 50 minutes. You'd think they'd realize by now that it's going to run over.

[Still Servant]

Wow. I'm shocked. Those damn shorts got me!

Thanks for having the contest and see you next year...

You're welcome! You did awesome! It was a lot of fun.

Despite the fact it was a pretty predictable year, I still enjoyed the show. I literally cheered out loud when Deakins won. I was also very happy for Peele. I've been a huge Rockwell fan for years, so I was really happy for him. I love when character actors get their due. I'm a sucker for movie mashups, so I was really digging the video packages like the ones before the Supporting Actor categories, the war one and I especially loved the one celebrating 90 years of film.

Stuff like that really makes me proud to be a fan of film.

I thought Jimmy did a good job. The current climate does not make it easy for comedy, so I thought he navigated pretty well. I thought the political stuff throughout the night was pretty tame. I was expecting it to be a lot worse.

In regards to the tournament going forward, we have some business to take care of possibly. Does anyone have any ideas as to a second tiebreaker? I've been thinking about it and the only thing I could come up with, I'm not a fan of. That is in the event where the tiebreaker doesn't break the tie, the winner is determined by whomever posted or submitted their picks first. I don't like this idea, so I'd rather just keep it the way it is, but I'm open to other ideas.

[Still Servant]

Congrats to our co-winners! 21 is definitely an impressive score. I was unsure about a lot of the categories (which, on the other hand, made it more fun watching) which resulted in my lowest score since--ouch!--2011!

As for the show as a whole, I wasn't really impressed. I thought Jimmy had better jokes and bits last year (I thought they'd cut back to the theater a couple times, so it was a little lame that they only handed out candy without any real interaction). I did like the stage set-up, though. It was pretty different.

Two things I say every year but I'm gonna say again:

- We need an Oscars broadcast more focused on film and the magic of movies! The pre-requisite montages ain't gonna cut it anymore!

- Lengthen the "official" time! They started at 8:00 instead of 8:30 this year and it still ran over by almost 50 minutes. You'd think they'd realize by now that it's going to run over.

I agree about focusing on film and movie magic, but like I mentioned in my post above, I thought the montages were good. I say it every year, but I would love to celebrate the year in film a bit more, not just those nominated.

I thought they could have done a little more with the folks in the theater too.

I love the technical categories, but one they have to combine is Sound Mixing and Sound Editing. These two categories usually end up providing the same winner. Not only do most people not care about the categories, most people can't even tell you the difference between the two. Lastly, and I know it won't happen, but all of the shorts have to go. Nobody has seen them (except for Heather) and most people don't care.

[Heather19]

:lol: I love the shorts. They've been releasing them in theaters the past few years so now they're a lot more accessible. I would definitely encourage people to see them next year.

What do you guys think about the musical numbers. Honestly I'm not a fan. It takes up time and I usually don't really care for the songs nominated. I think they could better use that time showing something more related to film. Like maybe do a piece on other films released that year like you want Mike, or maybe something more about the magic or making of films like Ricky would like.

Also I really wish they would start the show earlier. It's going to run overtime, there's no helping that. And on a sunday night I can't stay up so late with having to get up so early in the morning for work. West Coast people have it made. I did love the jet ski bit this year :lol:

[Still Servant]

They can dump the musical numbers. I never give a shit about them. Save that junk for the Grammys. I'd be fine with them starting it earlier, but it's all about primetime and advertising.

[Heather19]

I would be ecstatic if they even just moved it to 7. That's still practically primetime. Or switch it to a saturday night, but that will never happen.

[Ricky]

I like the song performances simply because it's an entertaining break in between what can sometimes be monotonous awards presentations. I'd be all for getting rid of them if it was replaced with something different and substantial. I hate that every year the Academy announces that the performers for all the Original Song nominees are going to perform. They act like it's some big, amazing reveal when they do the same thing every year. :lol:

So can the Academy just hire us to produce next year's show? Reducing the awards, cutting the musical performances, making it shorter and earlier, focusing more on film...we'd produce a kick-ass show, guys.

[mae]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=49e1oydqRIk

[Randall Flagg]

An additional tie-breaker could be predicting which movie wins the second most Oscars, how many (without going over). Correct me if I'm wrong, but this year Dunkirk won 3 Oscars.

[mae]

Or maybe correctly getting all of the Big Six categories.

[Randall Flagg]

Or maybe correctly getting all of the Big Six categories.
Which I did. Not sure if Lurker got those six correct.

[Mattrick]

I instituted a point system in my pool this year to try and avoid ties.

[Lurker]

Or maybe correctly getting all of the Big Six categories.
Which I did. Not sure if Lurker got those six correct.

I did.

But I don't see a problem with a tie. During the Olympics there were two skiers or snowboarders or something who both had the same exact time so they both got a silver medal and there were four medalists instead of the usual three. Nobody seemed unhappy about it.

[Randall Flagg]

Since there is no prize, I don't mind a tie.

[mae]

There isn’t? Why didn’t anyone tell me? Oh fudge...

[Randall Flagg]

I always took these contests as a matter of person pride (when I win or come close), and a shame when I lost.

That being said, I think that lurker and I deserve a trophy....even if we have to pay for it ourselves.

Stupid example:

https://i.pinimg.com/736x/99/0d/99/990d99124d624636753592bd936cf0fe--halloween-trophies-halloween-games.jpg

[Mattrick]

In an argument with someone FREAKING OUT that Jordan Peele won best original screenplay. It's apparently race-baiting and all about being progressive and he didn't deserve it and it's all politics. Did they not see that 10 black people won Oscars last year, including TWO winning best adapted Screenplay and a black film winning best picture?

[Still Servant]

This year we have two winners regardless. Any secondary tiebreaker would go into effect next year. I do like the idea of having people pick which film will have the second most Oscars. Predicting the big 6 winners is good too, but I feel like that can end in a tie too. We could institute both and just work our way down if need be. Matt mentioned a point system, which I also thought about too. I think it might complicate things too much and make it a little harder to get the final scores posted in a timely fashion. All great ideas. We've had ties three years in a row, which is crazy.

As for a trophy. I think that's a cool idea. If anybody deserves a trophy though, it's Heather, who is 6 time winner. We had the year when Me, Ricky and Heather all tied before the tiebreaker was put into place. Other than that, T-Dogz is the only other person to win, so Lurker and RF should certainly be proud. Watch out for Heather next year. This is the longest she has gone without winning.

Past results:

2010 results
Heather - 15
Servant - 14
Turtlex - 14
Cody - 8
Seymour - 8
Odetta - 4

2011 results
Heather - 17
Servant - 15
Path - 14
Mattrick - 14
Ricky - 12
Merlin - 11
Feev - 8

2012 results
Servant - 14
Heather - 14
Ricky - 14
Stockerlone - 12
Shannon - 11
Thorin- 10
Mattrick - 9
Feev - 8
Garrell - 8
Odetta - 5
Mystima - 4

2013 results
Heather - 20
Servant - 17
Ricky - 15
Matt - 14
Stockerlone - 13
Feev - 12
Mae- 10

2014 results
Heather - 22
Ricky - 20
Servant - 19
Randall - 16
Mae - 13
Matt - 10
Mystima - 10
Merlin - 7
Stockerlone - 6

2015 results
T-Dogz - 20
George Monkey - 19
Lurker - 19
Ricky - 18
Servant - 17
Feev - 17
Heather - 15
Shannon - 15
Mae - 13
Stocker - 9
Matt - 6

2016 results
Heather - 17 (winner by tiebreaker - Mad Max 6)
Servant - 17
Mae - 16
T-Dogz - 16
Ricky - 15
Matt - 15
Lurker - 14
Stocker - 8

2017 results
TDogz - 16 (winner by tiebreaker)
Doc Z - 16
Tommy - 16
Ricky - 15
Lurker - 15
Servant - 15
Heather - 14
Mae -14
Matt - 13
RF - 13
Stocker - 8
Merlin - 7

2018 results
Randall Flagg - 21 (Tiebreaker - The Shape of Water 4) Co-winner
Lurker - 21 (Tiebreaker - The Shape of Water 4) Co-winner
T-Dogz - 20
Servant - 20
Matt - 19
Mae - 19
Heather - 17
John Huerta - 16
Ricky -13
Doctor Zaius - 10

[mae]

Oh wow I didn't realize this was my best result, by far.

[Still Servant]

I just submitted my picks. For email, I put in mine, should I have put in yours?


Oh wow I didn't realize this was my best result, by far.

Nice work. 19 is a great score, people just had an amazing year this year.

It's really funny to do this contest here though. We love and study film so much and it shows. I also run this contest on Facebook with family and friends and the highest score was 15. Everyone else was in the 8-11 range. That's a feather in all of our caps.

[Mattrick]

I'll never live down that 6 spot in 2015.

[Still Servant]

I just submitted my picks. For email, I put in mine, should I have put in yours?


I'll never live down that 6 spot in 2015.

Yeah, I'm not sure what happened that year. We should go back and look.

[Heather19]

I'm curious now too .

I went with a few wildcard picks this year, some helped, some didn't. There were quite a few surprises for me, which I actually prefer. Kudos to the two that got 21. That's a great score. And honestly I don't mind if there are ties in the future.

[T-Dogz_AK47]

Best Picture for me, was quite literally, a coin toss this year between Shape of Water and 3 Billboards. If the coin had landed on tails, I would have picked Shape of Water.

However, I should have known that Icarus would win Best Documentary, given the subject matter - so I'm kicking myself over that one. :doh:

I am very surprised that DeKalb Elementary lost to The Silent Child for Best Live Action Short. I think that shit broadsided everyone here! :wtf:

Kudos to both RF and Lurker though for scoring 21! Well done guys! :clap:

[Lurker]

Thanks everybody. I did pick Icarus just because the Olympics were on everybody's mind. And Basketball because it's LA and who is not going to vote for Kobe?
I've missed best picture (I think) every year I have entered, so this year since I would have picked 3 Billboards I went with Water. Whew.

[Heather19]

And that's why you all should go watch the shorts. Was I the only one that voted for The Silent Child? I knew Dekalb Elementary was the favorite, most likely because of current events. And while the film had a good message and ending, it was definitely the weakest production wise and acting wise compared to all the others.

And it's funny you say who wouldn't vote for Kobe, because with the drama surrounding his nomination with the whole Times Up movement I thought they wouldn't give it to him. All the animated shorts this year were very weak though.

[Still Servant]

I am very surprised that DeKalb Elementary lost to The Silent Child for Best Live Action Short. I think that shit broadsided everyone here! :wtf:


That one surprised me a lot too. Everything I read leading up to the Oscar night was mentioning DeKalb. I don't think I read anything about Silent Child.


Thanks everybody. I did pick Icarus just because the Olympics were on everybody's mind. And Basketball because it's LA and who is not going to vote for Kobe?
I've missed best picture (I think) every year I have entered, so this year since I would have picked 3 Billboards I went with Water. Whew.

I was going back and forth on this one. I know LA loves Kobe, but I thought his past allegations were going to hurt him. I should have stayed with my gut on that one.


Was I the only one that voted for The Silent Child? I knew Dekalb Elementary was the favorite, most likely because of current events. And while the film had a good message and ending, it was definitely the weakest production wise and acting wise compared to all the others.


Actually, 4 people got that right. My sister (she just guessed), John Huerta and my friend Gerry.

Interestingly, nobody got Best Documentary short right. Heroin(e) seemed to be the favorite, but the Academy went in another direction.

For those that are curious, here is Matt's 2015 picks: http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?18904-The-Official-2015-Oscar-Discussion-Contest-Thread&p=903995&viewfull=1#post903995

[Mattrick]

Hey, an interesting Oscar bit. When it comes to best picture winners, it's very often (like 85-90%) that the Best Picture winner doesn't win either Adapted/Original Screenplay or Best Editing. The last time a BP winner didn't win either award was 2012 with The Artist. Before that you'd have to go all the way back to Braveheart. Shape of Water is in some elite company. Even more elite when you consider the last time a BP winner didn't win either of those, as well as not winning one of the 4 acting Oscars, was Braveheart. So it's been 22 years since that happened.

[mae]

Another bit of trivia is that The Shape of Water is the first sci-fi film to win Best Picture. It's more of a fantasy, but I'll count it as sci-fi.

[Still Servant]

Another bit of trivia is that The Shape of Water is the first sci-fi film to win Best Picture. It's more of a fantasy, but I'll count it as sci-fi.

It's a great sign, but there's still a long way to go. I don't want to change the subject, but I'm dabbling with the idea of writing a dissertation on the current state of movies. Focusing on mainstream audiences and why films like Annihilation are getting ignored. It's such a huge topic, I don't even know where to start.

[Mattrick]

I don't consider Shape of Water sci-fi/ If you're crossing that as a fantasy into sci-fi, then LOTR: Return of the King won best picture already. Plenty of sci-films have been nominated in the past 8 years or so...Avatar, Inception District 9, Her, Gravity (though I don't consider that sci-fi either), Arrival, Mad Max: Fury Road, The Martian.