For those who have sold their collection and put it back together

[Kingfan24]

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[biomieg]

Hard, if you're selling obscure stuff. I sold off major portions of my collection two or three times (I had legitimate reasons to do so) but I really underestimated how hard it would be to find some items again. There are at least fifteen things I once owned I'll probably never get back in my collection again.

It will be easier if you're only looking to sell (and later buy) S/Ls and trade editions. Those are always for sale. But proofs, pre-Carrie publications and stuff like that... those can be hard to find again....

Or do you mean whether or not it will be difficult (mentally) to invest the same amount of time, energy and money again after you let go of your collection?

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Easy.
I sold off everything I had. Started again in 2005 just as the prices dropped. Saved a fortune.
Now I have a decent collection for a fraction of what most of the other collectors paid...

My Stephen King Book Collection (http://www.akyle.f2s.com)

[chaos-consultants]

I sold my copy of Fuel of Tender Years signed by King and Froehlich to Chris Cavalier and regretted it ever since. Good thing I was able to buy it back from Betts!!

I sold my Lt. Rap years ago and regretted it ever since. Just bought it back from the ebay super-collection!

John

[biomieg]

eBay super-collection?

[Pasiuk57]

First of all-great topic. I know someday I will sell my books(hope it is not for a while) but that day will come for most of us.
There are things, maybe each of us have, that would be almost impossible to get ever again.
I think it would be tough to get everything back but having not had to sell off everything yet, I can not relate to it.
There are just some things that are extremely rare to find-certain proofs, manuscripts etc for sure or a special signed "To Mike" book etc.
With the amount of items I have, selling them all would be a long and tough ordeal.
Glad I'm not there yet...

[webstar1000]

eBay super-collection?

What is that?

[biomieg]

No idea, John mentioned it in the post directly above mine.

[Lookwhoitis]

blood in the water

[Drake69]

It was easy for me... kinda. I had all of SK's books with a few exceptions as paperbacks until we lost our house to a split tree during hurricane Irene. I used some of the rebuild money from the insurance payout to replace everything into hardback (I had several of the newer releases in HB and they happened to be stored away from the house, including my DT series artist editions, yay!), and was able to put together a fine collection. I know several of the older books are BCE's, but it just looks better seeing them on the shelf in the original dustjackets to me.

My two-cents.

[Drake69]

eBay super-collection?


What is that?

Sounds like a mega-auction of someone's nearly entire SK collection. Shudder to think how much THAT came up to!

[webstar1000]

eBay super-collection?


What is that?

Sounds like a mega-auction of someone's nearly entire SK collection. Shudder to think how much THAT came up to!

Im in. lol

[biomieg]

Well, yes, that's what it sounds like. But I can't find anything pointing to it, much less towards the sale of a copy of New Lieutenant's Rap. I fully trust John but the only super collection that is currently for sale that I know of is Grant's, at Betts. Hence my question.

[stroppygoblin]

Well, yes, that's what it sounds like. But I can't find anything pointing to it, much less towards the sale of a copy of New Lieutenant's Rap. I fully trust John but the only super collection that is currently for sale that I know of is Grant's, at Betts. Hence my question.

I thought it might be Gerald's, but so far he has only sold 2 pieces I believe, neither of which was a NLR.

[webstar1000]

Well, yes, that's what it sounds like. But I can't find anything pointing to it, much less towards the sale of a copy of New Lieutenant's Rap. I fully trust John but the only super collection that is currently for sale that I know of is Grant's, at Betts. Hence my question.

I thought it might be Gerald's, but so far he has only sold 2 pieces I believe, neither of which was a NLR.
Me too. I was also thinking that. I think he just tested the Ebay market. I belive (and I may be wrong) he has not 100% decided what to do. If I could have my pick (and that counts for shit) I would like to see him use Bett's. David is so good at what he does... and it would make it much less stressful for Gerald. There is so much he has I want.lol

[sgc1999]

ive had to do this three times. of course only pieces of my collection. But I REALLY miss some of the pieces I had to sell after 2008 economy collapse:(

[chaos-consultants]

It was the big auction of items that was online about a month ago and then ended early. It was posted here in the auction category. It was close to 5K for the lot. I didn't buy the entire lot but I made a good offer on a number of the pieces driven by my poor choice to sell the Lt years ago. Either way, I realize I led us all of topic. Mike, I too like you would have a tough time selling stuff. Anybody interested in the Tommyknockers typewriter from the film??? thought so LOL!

John

[2929]

Everything I had is gone now, except for a signed/limited of THE SHINING. I can't regret, since it took my family through some tough times, but I expect that rebuilding will take a lot more (money) than it took to assemble the collection in the first place. Interested in this and will probably start a Collection thread with Piece #2.

[webstar1000]

Question for everyone out here. David @ Bett's just said another "revision" coming and to stay tuned,....... meaning he is getting ready to lower the prices on Bad Penny's stuff again is what I see. From what he paid for stuff and what it has sold for and is being sold for... you all think he will:

A) Break even
B) Make money
C) Lose money

I was thinking a D... cause he was so into Glenn and a lot of that stuff has no value. Just started pondering that. I mean I know he made some money but he has got to be losing a lot now eh?

[Randall Flagg]

Question for everyone out here. David @ Bett's just said another "revision" coming and to stay tuned,....... meaning he is getting ready to lower the prices on Bad Penny's stuff again is what I see. From what he paid for stuff and what it has sold for and is being sold for... you all think he will:

A) Break even
B) Make money
C) Lose money

I was thinking a D... cause he was so into Glenn and a lot of that stuff has no value. Just started pondering that. I mean I know he made some money but he has got to be losing a lot now eh?
Don't see an option D.

[webstar1000]

Question for everyone out here. David @ Bett's just said another "revision" coming and to stay tuned,....... meaning he is getting ready to lower the prices on Bad Penny's stuff again is what I see. From what he paid for stuff and what it has sold for and is being sold for... you all think he will:

A) Break even
B) Make money
C) Lose money

I was thinking a D... cause he was so into Glenn and a lot of that stuff has no value. Just started pondering that. I mean I know he made some money but he has got to be losing a lot now eh?
Don't see an option D.

I was saying I was going to add it.. I take it I should have. haha

[Lookwhoitis]

cause he was so into Glenn and a lot of that stuff has no value (to webstar1000).

Fixed that for ya! ;)

[Robert Fulman]

It comes down to what accounting standard you use. If you think he can't take a loss on an item until he actually sells it, then he's probably in the black. If you "mark to market", then I think you'd have to believe that he has lost money. For example, what is the value of the 65 pieces of Chadbourne art? I think they're worth (a lot) less than $82.50, but I don't think they have "no value". Without even looking at the photbucket, I would say I would pay $100 for the entire lot. However, if Grant values them at $82.50 (or more) each, and is willing to have them shipped back to Australia, has he really taken a loss? I think we need an accountant's opinion on this matter.

[Br!an]

Question for everyone out here. David @ Bett's just said another "revision" coming and to stay tuned,...

Where did he say that?




.... meaning he is getting ready to lower the prices on Bad Penny's stuff again is what I see. From what he paid for stuff and what it has sold for and is being sold for... you all think he will:

A) Break even
B) Make money
C) Lose money

I was thinking a D... cause he was so into Glenn and a lot of that stuff has no value. Just started pondering that. I mean I know he made some money but he has got to be losing a lot now eh?


It's impossible to say without more information. Some of his collection will bring more than he paid and some less.

That said I would imagine that he is going to lose money. He has to pay David his fee. He had to have the items shipped to him originally and now ship them again. Even if he sold them for what he paid, he would lose money just because of that.

I'm sure he didn't pay full market price for all of those Chadbourne remarques. Glenn was hooking up his best customer for sure. There may be enough added value there to balance other losses. I'm not quite sure what you meant by "has no value."

[Lookwhoitis]

They are not in David's possession, Grant still has them (the sketch inserts and art pieces). I'm sure Grant is just trying to make back the investment he paid per piece to have them done by Chadbourne. I come from the comic book collecting hobby and there is a giant sub-genre built around collecting Original Art and sketches drawn by artists at conventions, so perhaps that is why I am much more open to the idea of purchasing hand drawn art in general (and at similar prices). Also I love the idea of being able to have a remarque that you can just stick in the book itself. I think it is neat.

Is it expensive for a small piece? Possibly, but I guess it depends on what your collecting bent is and how much you are willing to spend. I have bought a few pieces both at the original price point AND the discounted one. Plus i bought a piece from the Twisted Nadine series from David before Grants collection went on sale. PLUS I bought one from Twisted Nadine herself when she ebay auctioned her remaining pieces (albeit it closed at a lower price point). I remember the Twisted Nadine's Shardik sketch sold in the Haven fund auction for like $300 and I was mad because I wanted it and had been very close to pulling the trigger on it through Bett's at original list price.

Am I an idiot for spending money on these pieces at these prices? Perhaps, but I am satisfied. I am buying what I like. I enjoy collecting hand drawn art. I have a load of comic convention sketches and published pages and, since finding these forums, I have gone into collecting Stephen King art, both published and unpublished.

I bought the cover to Secretary of Dreams II from Badpenny's collection and I dont care how much any malcontent loves to ragg on Chadbourne or other collector's choices of purchases, a Published book cover oil painting for JUST OVER $300 is a fantastic investment.

To each their own I guess. :grouphug: :rose:

[Lookwhoitis]

It is of my opinion that the commissioning price of a intricately detailed sketch by a published artist could very well be $100 per piece. Perhaps he got a bulk deal. Who knows. Glen, BadPenny, and TwistedNadine do.

Comic artists sketching at cons that are moderately famous, published, and currently working often charge a similar rate just to do a one figure con sketch.

Bigger artists can charge up to $500 and people pay it all day long.

Collectibles is sure an interesting mania. :D

[Lookwhoitis]

I'm always intrigued by collectors that focus on the resale possibility, profit margin for flipping, and financial minutiae of the collectibles market.

That is certainly not my focus, but of course different people look for different things from the hobby.

Collect what you like and all who beg to differ be damned. :D

If you value resale or possible financial profit over owning the items themselves that bring your favorite books to life or closer to your heart, then the decision is easy: be more discriminating in your purchases.

If you spend your money on what you like and brings you passion, then you dont have to worry about resale value because you will be keeping it, lol

[divemaster]

For whatever reason (marriage, financial stuff, new house, etc. etc.) how hard has it been to put back together?

An interesting question, b/c I'm in the process of selling a bunch of stuff. I really only collect trade firsts and S/L'ds so there's nothing in my King collections that will be hard to find later. And I'm telling myself that indeed I will repurchase what I have to let go of at some point. Will I? I don't know. But that's my goal, eventually.

The situation is a bit different for my Arkham House collection. I've already sold most of my "highly desirable" editions. These books will be much more difficult to find (in good condition) than the King books. And much more expensive to boot. I will miss my King collection, but the real punch in the gut is having to let go of the Arkhams. I'm also telling myself that one day I'll repurchase these.

[webstar1000]

Question for everyone out here. David @ Bett's just said another "revision" coming and to stay tuned,...

Where did he say that?




.... meaning he is getting ready to lower the prices on Bad Penny's stuff again is what I see. From what he paid for stuff and what it has sold for and is being sold for... you all think he will:

A) Break even
B) Make money
C) Lose money

I was thinking a D... cause he was so into Glenn and a lot of that stuff has no value. Just started pondering that. I mean I know he made some money but he has got to be losing a lot now eh?


It's impossible to say without more information. Some of his collection will bring more than he paid and some less.

That said I would imagine that he is going to lose money. He has to pay David his fee. He had to have the items shipped to him originally and now ship them again. Even if he sold them for what he paid, he would lose money just because of that.

I'm sure he didn't pay full market price for all of those Chadbourne remarques. Glenn was hooking up his best customer for sure. There may be enough added value there to balance other losses. I'm not quite sure what you meant by "has no value."

He updated his site this am. I am "assuming" he is lowering the remaining stuff again. I imagine Grant sure took a hit on the shipping. That sucks. I was just thinking about him this am after seeing that post and then I seen this thread and thought I would see what the community thought. I personally do not mind Glenn's work for the record and some of it is pretty cool... there is just soooo much of it. He pumps it out like a machine. Supply n Demand...

[jhanic]

For whatever reason (marriage, financial stuff, new house, etc. etc.) how hard has it been to put back together?

An interesting question, b/c I'm in the process of selling a bunch of stuff. I really only collect trade firsts and S/L'ds so there's nothing in my King collections that will be hard to find later. And I'm telling myself that indeed I will repurchase what I have to let go of at some point. Will I? I don't know. But that's my goal, eventually.

The situation is a bit different for my Arkham House collection. I've already sold most of my "highly desirable" editions. These books will be much more difficult to find (in good condition) than the King books. And much more expensive to boot. I will miss my King collection, but the real punch in the gut is having to let go of the Arkhams. I'm also telling myself that one day I'll repurchase these.

I know exactly how you feel about selling your Arkham books. I sold my complete set a number of years ago and miss them sometimes. I got a VERY good price for them, but...

John

[Lookwhoitis]

Question for everyone out here. David @ Bett's just said another "revision" coming and to stay tuned,...

Where did he say that?




.... meaning he is getting ready to lower the prices on Bad Penny's stuff again is what I see. From what he paid for stuff and what it has sold for and is being sold for... you all think he will:

A) Break even
B) Make money
C) Lose money

I was thinking a D... cause he was so into Glenn and a lot of that stuff has no value. Just started pondering that. I mean I know he made some money but he has got to be losing a lot now eh?


It's impossible to say without more information. Some of his collection will bring more than he paid and some less.

That said I would imagine that he is going to lose money. He has to pay David his fee. He had to have the items shipped to him originally and now ship them again. Even if he sold them for what he paid, he would lose money just because of that.

I'm sure he didn't pay full market price for all of those Chadbourne remarques. Glenn was hooking up his best customer for sure. There may be enough added value there to balance other losses. I'm not quite sure what you meant by "has no value."

He updated his site this am. I am "assuming" he is lowering the remaining stuff again. I imagine Grant sure took a hit on the shipping. That sucks. I was just thinking about him this am after seeing that post and then I seen this thread and thought I would see what the community thought. I personally do not mind Glenn's work for the record and some of it is pretty cool... there is just soooo much of it. He pumps it out like a machine. Supply n Demand...

I agree with the fact that because there are a lot of Chadbourne pieces it could seem to devalue their "worth." But who knows? Original Art is not really a short term game. Just take a look at what silver and bronze age comic book pages are selling for now. In the short term, the very artists themselves sold them for pittances (and sometimes ended up penniless as well, later in life) and now those pages go for 20K and up.

The rule with art is buy what you like, try not to overspend and hold on to them for a while.