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webstar1000
05-16-2014, 01:08 PM
I can't find a thread here on this but I thought it would open up a great discussion... Does having matching numbers increase value? What sets go together? Which sets add the most value? I am a NUT over matching numbers and would pay much more in some cases for those numbers... Would you?

The Library Policeman
05-16-2014, 01:18 PM
I have almost all the S/L's by King (outwith the dark tower) and I don't think I have 2 numbers the same. I totally get how some people go for the matching #'s though - it's just never particularly interested me. Having said that, I'm going for matching #'s with the upcoming Cemetery Dance reissues starting with Carrie. Just seems to make sense with this set. :)

Kingfan24
05-16-2014, 01:20 PM
I would LOVE to match numbers on all my books - I have mostly two numbers 464 and 54 - IF ANYONE HAS EITHER OF THESE IN ANY BOOK I'D LOVE TO TRADE!

becca69
05-16-2014, 01:25 PM
I prefer if a set of books has matching numbers but I don't mind if titles not in a set don't match. Of course I suffer from missing one book from my DT set and I have a mismatched book in my ASOIAF set. That drives me nuts.

The Library Policeman
05-16-2014, 01:34 PM
I would LOVE to match numbers on all my books - I have mostly two numbers 464 and 54 - IF ANYONE HAS EITHER OF THESE IN ANY BOOK I'D LOVE TO TRADE!

When I get a chance I'll go through my S/L's and check for your numbers, Kris.

biomieg
05-16-2014, 01:34 PM
Like Alan, I understand why people would want matching numbers but if I ever start collecting S/Ls I won't bother with trying to match numbers. It would be nice to get an assortment of low numbers I guess.

I know there are several people here who own(ed) > 20 books with a matching number. Rahfa had 28 at one point, I believe.

The Library Policeman
05-16-2014, 01:35 PM
I prefer if a set of books has matching numbers but I don't mind if titles not in a set don't match. Of course I suffer from missing one book from my DT set and I have a mismatched book in my ASOIAF set. That drives me nuts.

Yeah that one number missing thing would be annoying, Becca. Hope you eventually find them!

ELazansky
05-16-2014, 01:40 PM
If it is a specific set of books, like the Song of Ice and Fire series, then matching numbers is the way to go. But with separate S/L editions, I don't care if the numbers match. Some of my CD S/L editions have the same number, but I would never sell IT and FDNS as a "matching numbers set". They are not a set - they are two books with the same number.


...I have a mismatched book in my ASOIAF set. That drives me nuts.

As do I. I wish I could find my orphaned child somewhere. Why would someone want to keep it from coming to a good home with its brothers and sisters? :-(

webstar1000
05-16-2014, 01:42 PM
What about say Doctor Sleep and Shinning? Dark Tower set? Matching Potfolios? Regulators and Desparation? Blackhouse and Talisaman? To name a few.... Would you Pay more?

ELazansky
05-16-2014, 01:45 PM
What about say Doctor Sleep and Shinning? Dark Tower set? Matching Potfolios? Regulators and Desparation? Blackhouse and Talisaman? To name a few.... Would you Pay more?

Dr. Sleep and The Shining - not a set (two separate publishers as well)
Dark Tower - a set and would pay more for matching numbers
Portfolios - my IT S/L matches my IT Portfolio, but I don't really consider them a set. It is nice to have the same number.
Regulators and Desperation/Black House and Talisman - not sets to me, although related. My numbers don't match and I am OK with that.

skyofcrack
05-16-2014, 03:01 PM
Black House and Talisman - not sets to me, although related. My numbers don't match and I am OK with that.

Black House and Talisman are a set. If you purchased Talisman from Grant then you were offered the same number of S/L Black House (#'d artist as well).

I can see why some wouldn't care though.

needfulthings
05-16-2014, 03:33 PM
LOOKS LIKE A MATCHING SET TO ME.
http://imageshack.com/a/img819/1425/m7el.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img713/2460/82d3.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img850/8134/yqmv.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img534/9504/uopg.jpg

Joe315
05-16-2014, 03:41 PM
Seems like it is a personal preference among collectors. If I can get a matching set from the get go, then I will do that. But I won't go through the work of trying to track down a specific number.

AKC
05-16-2014, 03:45 PM
Collector specific.....

I think we can all agree, at a minimum, that a Matching Dark Tower set is preferred.

Past that, up to each individual.

ap275
05-16-2014, 04:10 PM
If it is one story told via a number of books, or books specifically published as parts of a larger set, then I would prefer a matching number. I think value would be about 10%-20% higher for a matching number set. Would not care about a number if it is a stand alone novel. Collectors trying to piece together all books or just related books as the same number are facing long odds - since any number over 200 would not be complete due to only 200 copies published of S/L Legends. This is not including lettered editions.

webstar1000
05-16-2014, 04:29 PM
LOOKS LIKE A MATCHING SET TO ME.
http://imageshack.com/a/img819/1425/m7el.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img713/2460/82d3.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img850/8134/yqmv.jpg
http://imageshack.com/a/img534/9504/uopg.jpg

Sorry I have to ask... Why does Wishpers apply? Cause I am pissed lol as I do not have that matching my set. Haha

stroppygoblin
05-16-2014, 05:02 PM
Sorry I have to ask... Why does Wishpers apply? Cause I am pissed lol as I do not have that matching my set. Haha

It contained the only full version of "Before The Play" (August '82)

webstar1000
05-16-2014, 05:08 PM
Thanks bro... I did not know that AND that is why I love this site! Just had my offer accepted too everyone on my dream house!!!!!!!!!!!! Will post pics!!!:):):)

Frankie
05-17-2014, 01:23 PM
For me,

Dt: Of course.
Talisman/BH: Yeah, but to a much lesser extent.
Anything else: No way. Bundle FDNS and Dr Sleep and The Shining together and I'd expect to pay less, not more.

Tree705
05-17-2014, 01:34 PM
I would not pay more for matching numbers but would/will use it as a selling point to get the most so perhaps more for the books.

webstar1000
05-17-2014, 03:31 PM
I would not pay more for matching numbers but would/will use it as a selling point to get the most so perhaps more for the books.

Agreed. Because i WOULD pay more. And Doctor Sleep is part of the Shinning to me.... Related in so many ways!

Patrick
05-17-2014, 04:08 PM
If the books are related, I would pay more.

If the books are unrelated, I would not pay more. However, all else being equal, I would buy them over buying someone else's unmatched books.

divemaster
05-17-2014, 04:27 PM
I don't care one whit about matching numbers. Except for the DT set, which I do have matching III through TWTTK. But that's mostly due to Grant's marketing genius. And the perceived premium on value that someone else might pay if I had to sell.

Even other "sets" don't really interest me to match. I have SOD I and II and it doesn't bother me at all that the numbers don't match.

I've got about 50 non-DT S/L'ds; check my collection thread--if you see a number you want, I will swap even-steven as long as condition is comparable.

DoctorZaius
05-17-2014, 04:37 PM
Matching numbers means a lot to me, to a point. Dark Tower series - yes. Desperation & Regulators - Yes, but I can only wish at this point. Talisman & Black House - yes. Doctor Sleep & The Shining - yes. The interrelatedness of King's world makes the matching numbers very enticing to me. Even the fact that 11/23/63 has scenes that take place during IT make we wish I had them in matching numbers. In the end, matching numbers is part of the game for me. Thankfully, CD, SubPress, Grant, and PS have been good to me in the matching department.

webstar1000
05-17-2014, 05:23 PM
I don't care one whit about matching numbers. Except for the DT set, which I do have matching III through TWTTK. But that's mostly due to Grant's marketing genius. And the perceived premium on value that someone else might pay if I had to sell.

Even other "sets" don't really interest me to match. I have SOD I and II and it doesn't bother me at all that the numbers don't match.

I've got about 50 non-DT S/L'ds; check my collection thread--if you see a number you want, I will swap even-steven as long as condition is comparable.
Lol well said. Hahahhaha I will check what numbers you have when I get back from vacation. Lol

divemaster
05-17-2014, 06:06 PM
Let me clarify, just in case someone misinterprets what I am offering.

I'm glad to swap out any number if indeed that helps someone add to or complete a number set they are looking for. I'm not going to swap out just because someone wants a random lower number than what they've got.

Patrick
05-17-2014, 10:53 PM
With few exceptions, I am also willing to help out another collector if they are actively searching for a specific number to match their others of the same number.

becca69
05-19-2014, 07:14 AM
I prefer if a set of books has matching numbers but I don't mind if titles not in a set don't match. Of course I suffer from missing one book from my DT set and I have a mismatched book in my ASOIAF set. That drives me nuts.

Yeah that one number missing thing would be annoying, Becca. Hope you eventually find them!

Thanks, I've been looking since the early 2000s :(

becca69
05-19-2014, 07:20 AM
If it is a specific set of books, like the Song of Ice and Fire series, then matching numbers is the way to go. But with separate S/L editions, I don't care if the numbers match. Some of my CD S/L editions have the same number, but I would never sell IT and FDNS as a "matching numbers set". They are not a set - they are two books with the same number.


...I have a mismatched book in my ASOIAF set. That drives me nuts.

As do I. I wish I could find my orphaned child somewhere. Why would someone want to keep it from coming to a good home with its brothers and sisters? :-(

And the GRRM book collectors are not nearly as organized as SK folks, although I'm trying :D

The Library Policeman
05-19-2014, 02:35 PM
I prefer if a set of books has matching numbers but I don't mind if titles not in a set don't match. Of course I suffer from missing one book from my DT set and I have a mismatched book in my ASOIAF set. That drives me nuts.

Yeah that one number missing thing would be annoying, Becca. Hope you eventually find them!

Thanks, I've been looking since the early 2000s :(

Patience, Grasshopper......... :D

webstar1000
05-19-2014, 03:11 PM
One of the reasons I bought the CD Doubleday Carrie and did the lock in for the rest is to ensure my numbers 100%. I think it might be silly... But just means so much to me. I know there are both sides of the fence but even though I have located some books I do not have for a great price I have held off until I can find a matching set for sale...

Jimimck
05-19-2014, 11:15 PM
I think matching numbers on related books (BH/Talisman, Dr Sleep/Shing etc) falls in the same camp as PC vs numbered editions in regard to if they are worth more or not. For some collectors, they will see added value, and others just won't care.

I like the idea of matching numbers where possible myself. I'm not a big s/l collector and so I personally wouldn't pay more to hunt out and match a number, but I'd certainly take the option if it was easily available. I have a number I ask CD to match for me when I buy things from them, and this includes Lonely Road Books. I hope to match Legion with my Exorcist number when they do that next year.

webstar1000
05-27-2014, 04:26 PM
Hey other than the Dark Tower... And including Portfolios... What would you guys say could count as possible matching numbers guys?

DoctorZaius
05-27-2014, 05:08 PM
I think that Desperation/Regulators would be a cool one to obtain, but very difficult one to come by.

webstar1000
05-27-2014, 05:11 PM
I think that Desperation/Regulators would be a cool one to obtain, but very difficult one to come by.

Greg, I never even thought about that one! I wonder if anyone has a matching set... Good one though man!

DoctorZaius
05-27-2014, 05:20 PM
I think that Desperation/Regulators would be a cool one to obtain, but very difficult one to come by.

Greg, I never even thought about that one! I wonder if anyone has a matching set... Good one though man!

It's my dream one! Problem is that I have a superb remarque in my Desperation #910, so I have to find another Desperation, #341, to match my Regulators.

Merlin1958
05-30-2014, 02:56 PM
Personally, I have, in a "Dolso" case, my 1/1 of "The Shining" and "Dr. Sleep", which I think is pretty cool. "The Shining" is probably my second favorite, King book. If he ever goes on a signing tour again I would bring this for a signature.

http://imageshack.com/a/img543/9676/2zd3.jpg


http://imageshack.com/a/img268/8899/4h4j.jpg


http://imageshack.com/a/img580/3310/vz73.jpg

thegreattim
06-03-2014, 05:10 PM
Personally, I have, in a "Dolso" case, my 1/1 of "The Shining" and "Dr. Sleep", which I think is pretty cool. "The Shining" is probably my second favorite, King book. If he ever goes on a signing tour again I would bring this for a signature.

http://imageshack.com/a/img543/9676/2zd3.jpg


http://imageshack.com/a/img268/8899/4h4j.jpg


http://imageshack.com/a/img580/3310/vz73.jpg

That's gorgeous, Bill!

webstar1000
06-04-2014, 03:21 AM
Personally, I have, in a "Dolso" case, my 1/1 of "The Shining" and "Dr. Sleep", which I think is pretty cool. "The Shining" is probably my second favorite, King book. If he ever goes on a signing tour again I would bring this for a signature.

http://imageshack.com/a/img543/9676/2zd3.jpg


http://imageshack.com/a/img268/8899/4h4j.jpg


http://imageshack.com/a/img580/3310/vz73.jpg

That's gorgeous, Bill!

That is cool. MAybe this should be called the OCD thread guys?

becca69
06-04-2014, 04:14 AM
I think that Desperation/Regulators would be a cool one to obtain, but very difficult one to come by.

That would be cool. I would love to have any Regulators - preferably a lettered :lol:

webstar1000
06-04-2014, 06:51 AM
I think that Desperation/Regulators would be a cool one to obtain, but very difficult one to come by.

That would be cool. I would love to have any Regulators - preferably a lettered :lol:

When the dust settles from my crazy year... I am getting one. AMAZING book!

George at C-Springs
06-04-2014, 11:47 AM
Originally Posted by DoctorZaius
I think that Desperation/Regulators would be a cool one to obtain, but very difficult one to come by.

Greg, I never even thought about that one! I wonder if anyone has a matching set... Good one though man!

I think the odds of my finding the matching #5 Regulators for my #5 Desperation, for sale, at a price I can afford ... is distinctly tremendously unlikely. That's why, other than my "normal" matching number (186), I opted to go with just single digits. At least the odds of getting a 1 through 9 are a little bit higher. I've got a 1, 4, 5 and 7 so far. You see single digits pop up somewhat frquently, it's just a matter of having the disposable cash on hand when it does. Ho-hum.

Papaseraphim
06-05-2014, 05:32 PM
Which books do you have with #186 if I might ask?

Thanks,

Nick



Originally Posted by DoctorZaius
I think that Desperation/Regulators would be a cool one to obtain, but very difficult one to come by.

Greg, I never even thought about that one! I wonder if anyone has a matching set... Good one though man!

I think the odds of my finding the matching #5 Regulators for my #5 Desperation, for sale, at a price I can afford ... is distinctly tremendously unlikely. That's why, other than my "normal" matching number (186), I opted to go with just single digits. At least the odds of getting a 1 through 9 are a little bit higher. I've got a 1, 4, 5 and 7 so far. You see single digits pop up somewhat frquently, it's just a matter of having the disposable cash on hand when it does. Ho-hum.

George at C-Springs
06-05-2014, 05:45 PM
Which books do you have with #186 if I might ask?

Thanks,

Nick

Nick, check out my Collections thread ... and please let me know if you have any 186's to sell/trade!

Papaseraphim
06-05-2014, 06:38 PM
Nice collection George.

I noticed you don't have any Grant 186s :tongue1:



Which books do you have with #186 if I might ask?

Thanks,

Nick

Nick, check out my Collections thread ... and please let me know if you have any 186's to sell/trade!

webstar1000
06-06-2014, 03:42 AM
Regulator's and Desperation
Talisman and Black house
Dark Tower Set
IT and Portfolio
Secretary of Dreams I and II
Insomnia and Portfolio
Cycle of the Werewolf and Portfolio
Stand and Portfolio
Doctor Sleep and The Shinning
The Dark Man and Portfolio

So.... is there any other matching numbered combo's that I missed guys?

biomieg
06-06-2014, 03:56 AM
There is also a Skeleton Crew art portfolio - if I recall correctly the print run was 500 copies (which is less than the S/L) but I can't remember if they were actually numbered... I don't think so but I may be mistaken.

Are you sure all portfolios you mention were numbered? I'm not saying they aren't, I simply don't know. Oh, and some of them (Insomnia, The Stand) also occur in different states. If all states are numbered it would be pretty awesome to match those as well.

Lurker
06-06-2014, 04:02 AM
Skeleton Crew portfolio isn't numbered.

I do have matching Talisman, Black House AND the gift Talisman/Black House...

webstar1000
06-06-2014, 05:18 AM
Skeleton Crew portfolio isn't numbered.

I do have matching Talisman, Black House AND the gift Talisman/Black House...

SELL THAT TO ME........ lol

Mr. Rabbit Trick
06-06-2014, 07:56 AM
You can't count portfolios that are not signed by King together with the signed ones. :tongue1:

webstar1000
06-06-2014, 08:20 AM
You can't count portfolios that are not signed by King together with the signed ones. :tongue1:

Interesting thought... see I would but your right... most would not.

George at C-Springs
06-06-2014, 11:18 AM
Nice collection George.

I noticed you don't have any Grant 186s

Your powers of observation are keen young padowan. It sounds like we may need to talk!

DoctorZaius
06-06-2014, 02:36 PM
Regulator's and Desperation
Talisman and Black house
Dark Tower Set
IT and Portfolio
Secretary of Dreams I and II
Insomnia and Portfolio
Cycle of the Werewolf and Portfolio
Stand and Portfolio
Doctor Sleep and The Shinning
The Dark Man and Portfolio

So.... is there any other matching numbered combo's that I missed guys?

How about The Dark Man, Eyes of the Dragon, The Stand, and The Dark Tower books, since they all share a common antagonist? Just musing!

needfulthings
06-06-2014, 04:38 PM
#172/350
http://imageshack.com/a/img856/1295/jatf.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img849/1232/k2x9.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img829/3374/zfr5.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img822/8903/yq3f.jpg

Patrick
06-06-2014, 05:43 PM
Excellent!

webstar1000
06-06-2014, 05:50 PM
#172/350
http://imageshack.com/a/img856/1295/jatf.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img849/1232/k2x9.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img829/3374/zfr5.jpg

http://imageshack.com/a/img822/8903/yq3f.jpg

Will u sell me this?

needfulthings
06-06-2014, 06:10 PM
:nope:

webstar1000
06-06-2014, 06:36 PM
:nope:

:frown1:

webstar1000
08-26-2014, 08:26 AM
I had to come to this thread. It seems that more and more people are starting to collect same numbers. I see how important it is for the PS and the CD lines for people to have their numbers match. I really did not get that "vibe" when I joined about a year ago... pretty cool to see the trend. I think it adds such great value to ANY run of books that make sense. :)

Lot guy
08-26-2014, 01:08 PM
I just matched an IT Portfolio to my SL both are PC but matching just the same, this is the only matching set I own, I wish my COTW SL & Portfolio matched but they do not

Pasiuk57
08-26-2014, 01:29 PM
My Cycle and Portfolio numbers match but how I found the matching portfolio was extremely lucky!

Tommy
08-26-2014, 01:45 PM
If anyone happens to have Mr. Slaughter #91, I would very much like to swap, I now have Queen of Bedlam, The Providence Rider and The River of Souls all numbered 91 and They Thirst should also be this though I know it is not part of that series but still I am going to try and collect number 91 for all future Mccammon signed limiteds and I do have a Like New Copy of Mr. Slaughter for swapping so please PM if you can help me out
Thanks!
Tommy

P.S.

I also have a Speaks the Nightbird S/L that could be swapped for number 91

webstar1000
05-01-2015, 03:24 AM
Hey does anyone out here have a matching Insomnia and Portfolio? What would you value it at if so? Thanks!

jhanic
05-01-2015, 04:16 AM
Hey does anyone out here have a matching Insomnia and Portfolio? What would you value it at if so? Thanks!

Kris, there were only 400 portfolios issued, while there were 1250 signed limiteds. If I had a matching set (which I don't--my book is #851, my portfolio is #158), I'd value it at $600+. The original price of the portfolio was $80.

John

webstar1000
05-01-2015, 04:58 AM
Hey does anyone out here have a matching Insomnia and Portfolio? What would you value it at if so? Thanks!

Kris, there were only 400 portfolios issued, while there were 1250 signed limiteds. If I had a matching set (which I don't--my book is #851, my portfolio is #158), I'd value it at $600+. The original price of the portfolio was $80.

John

Thanks John. That is a big help!!!!!! Im looking for that now:)

frik
05-01-2015, 11:02 AM
Just stumbled across this thread.
Yes, I do like matching sets, but they're not a must by far.
My collections are a mixed bag for sure:

Subterranean Press:

Dan Simmons
*Hyperion Cantos: numbered #103/lettered OO (I got lucky to get full matching sets, three titles so far)
*Olympos: numbered #631, no (matching) Ilium
*Flashback: numbered #27
*The Guiding Nose of Ulfänt Banderöz: numbered #68
*Phases of Gravity: numbered #200

Joe Abercrombie: The Shattered Sea books:
*Half a King: numbered #48/lettered MM
*Half the World: numbered #48/lettered MM
So this will end up a matching trilogy

George R.R. Martin
*A Song of Ice and Fire:
Books I, II, V: numbered #61
(Anyone selling books III and IV ???)

*Dying of the Light: numbered #25

Steven Erikson:
*Malazan Book of the Fallen:
Books II, III and IV: numbered #334 (anyone got the first of the series??)/lettered books III and IV: EE
This will never turn into a complete matching series, numbered nor lettered.

Robert McCammon:
*the Matthew Corbett books: numbered #78, except for Mister Slaughter, that's a #228.
*I Travel By Night: numbered #75/lettered S (this will become a complete matching tetralogy)
*They Thirst: numbered #291
*The Five: numbered #78
*Baal: numbered #75 and #81 (slipcased)
*Bethany's Sin: numbered #75
*The Night Boat: numbered #457
*The Wolf's Hour: numbered #218
*The Hunter From the Woods: numbered #231

My King limiteds don't fare much better, I'm afraid.

sk

needfulthings
05-01-2015, 12:05 PM
#342
http://imageshack.com/a/img819/1425/m7el.jpg

Priest
05-01-2015, 12:20 PM
from my pov especially in terms of selling a set the matching # is very important.
You will sell a matching DT Set quite fast, a non matching besser in single book auctions.

Sets i understand - i would always try to get a matching set over a non-matching,
But i would never try to search all my books in the same #

frik
05-01-2015, 12:22 PM
Love it!
Which reminds me...

I do have two SubPress King limiteds as well:

*The Shining: numbered #253/Doctor Sleep (CD) numbered #253
*The Green Mile: numbered #18

sk

Randall Flagg
05-01-2015, 01:46 PM
Hey does anyone out here have a matching Insomnia and Portfolio? What would you value it at if so? Thanks!

Kris, there were only 400 portfolios issued, while there were 1250 signed limiteds. If I had a matching set (which I don't--my book is #851, my portfolio is #158), I'd value it at $600+. The original price of the portfolio was $80.

John

Thanks John. That is a big help!!!!!! Im looking for that now:)
Kris, are you trying to match a S/L book and BOTH portfolio versions (red cover, black cover)? May be impossible.

tippy4
05-01-2015, 02:26 PM
The big mistake sellers often make is bundling five or six books (I'm not talking about Dark Tower books) of the same number and trying to sell them as a set.

Most collectors are not going to buy five unrelated books in one swoop just because they have the same number.

Mr. Rabbit Trick
05-01-2015, 10:10 PM
Hey does anyone out here have a matching Insomnia and Portfolio? What would you value it at if so? Thanks!

Kris, there were only 400 portfolios issued, while there were 1250 signed limiteds. If I had a matching set (which I don't--my book is #851, my portfolio is #158), I'd value it at $600+. The original price of the portfolio was $80.

John

Thanks John. That is a big help!!!!!! Im looking for that now:)
Kris, are you trying to match a S/L book and BOTH portfolio versions (red cover, black cover)? May be impossible.

Don't think the red ones were numbered. (Might be wrong)

carlosdetweiller
05-02-2015, 03:42 AM
Hey does anyone out here have a matching Insomnia and Portfolio? What would you value it at if so? Thanks!

Kris, there were only 400 portfolios issued, while there were 1250 signed limiteds. If I had a matching set (which I don't--my book is #851, my portfolio is #158), I'd value it at $600+. The original price of the portfolio was $80.

John

Thanks John. That is a big help!!!!!! Im looking for that now:)
Kris, are you trying to match a S/L book and BOTH portfolio versions (red cover, black cover)? May be impossible.

Don't think the red ones were numbered. (Might be wrong)

My red portfolio is numbered 10 of 400. I have never known for certain how many red portfolios were done but I think that they are just part of the total 400 copy edition.

Rahfa
05-02-2015, 07:02 AM
The big mistake sellers often makes is bundling five or six books (I'm not talking about Dark Tower books) of the same number and tringy to sell them as a set.

Most collectors are not going to buy five unrelated books in one swoop just because they have the same number.

Five? How about 10?

I might be putting this to the test this summer - haha. I think I'm going to sell my big set and I'm going to try to do it as one huge group of 17 books. We'll see...

tippy4
05-02-2015, 07:48 PM
The big mistake sellers often make is bundling five or six books (I'm not talking about Dark Tower books) of the same number and trying to sell them as a set.

Most collectors are not going to buy five unrelated books in one swoop just because they have the same number.

Five? How about 10?

I might be putting this to the test this summer - haha. I think I'm going to sell my big set and I'm going to try to do it as one huge group of 17 books. We'll see...

Do yourself a favor...break 'em up and sell them one by one.

It is more work, but it will pay off.

Rahfa
05-04-2015, 04:27 AM
The big mistake sellers often make is bundling five or six books (I'm not talking about Dark Tower books) of the same number and trying to sell them as a set.

Most collectors are not going to buy five unrelated books in one swoop just because they have the same number.

Five? How about 10?

I might be putting this to the test this summer - haha. I think I'm going to sell my big set and I'm going to try to do it as one huge group of 17 books. We'll see...

Do yourself a favor...break 'em up and sell them one by one.

It is more work, but it will pay off.

If and when it happens, they'd be consigned anyway - and maybe David will have some thoughts on the best approach...

Theli
05-04-2015, 10:00 AM
I could see making more $ piecing them out, but I think it would be damn cool for collectors to keep them all together.

Rahfa
05-04-2015, 11:08 AM
That's the thing - Tippy's totally right that it's much easier to sell if they got broken up piecemeal...I mean, otherwise you're basically asking ONE collector to spend $17K+ for an entire set all at once, when a motivated collector will surely have duplicates in the set already. So that's asking an awful lot!

But it's like any other unique collectible - it can't be repeated, won't be repeated, and I've never seen a matching set with more than 5-6 of the most recent books matched up. This has older books like Christine, Danse, Night Visions (not that that matters) as the same # as the DT set, and many others. So it's basically one of a kind.

A true collector is going to appreciate that, like you point out.

Is that worth $17K+ to someone? Not too sure...haha

TCCBodhi
05-07-2015, 04:56 PM
I'm not working TOO hard at trying to get matching numbers OUTSIDE of the series/sequences, but if I can, I will. I don't have much of a start on any particular # yet, but it at least adds a little interest to the game.

Kingfan24
05-07-2015, 06:22 PM
Hey does anyone out here have a matching Insomnia and Portfolio? What would you value it at if so? Thanks!

Kris, there were only 400 portfolios issued, while there were 1250 signed limiteds. If I had a matching set (which I don't--my book is #851, my portfolio is #158), I'd value it at $600+. The original price of the portfolio was $80.

John

Thanks John. That is a big help!!!!!! Im looking for that now:)
Kris, are you trying to match a S/L book and BOTH portfolio versions (red cover, black cover)? May be impossible.

Don't think the red ones were numbered. (Might be wrong)

My red portfolio is numbered 10 of 400. I have never known for certain how many red portfolios were done but I think that they are just part of the total 400 copy edition.

they're were supposed to be ten with Phil hale originals in each but he only did like 6. The first 10 were numbered and in a red portfolio

Mr. Rabbit Trick
05-07-2015, 09:58 PM
Don't think the red ones were numbered. (Might be wrong)

My red portfolio is numbered 10 of 400. I have never known for certain how many red portfolios were done but I think that they are just part of the total 400 copy edition.

they're were supposed to be ten with Phil hale originals in each but he only did like 6. The first 10 were numbered and in a red portfolio

Thanks for the info guys.

webstar1000
05-08-2015, 03:31 AM
Hey does anyone out here have a matching Insomnia and Portfolio? What would you value it at if so? Thanks!

Kris, there were only 400 portfolios issued, while there were 1250 signed limiteds. If I had a matching set (which I don't--my book is #851, my portfolio is #158), I'd value it at $600+. The original price of the portfolio was $80.

John

Thanks John. That is a big help!!!!!! Im looking for that now:)
Kris, are you trying to match a S/L book and BOTH portfolio versions (red cover, black cover)? May be impossible.

Don't think the red ones were numbered. (Might be wrong)

My red portfolio is numbered 10 of 400. I have never known for certain how many red portfolios were done but I think that they are just part of the total 400 copy edition.

they're were supposed to be ten with Phil hale originals in each but he only did like 6. The first 10 were numbered and in a red portfolio

Very cool... anyone have one of these?

carlosdetweiller
05-08-2015, 03:43 AM
Hey does anyone out here have a matching Insomnia and Portfolio? What would you value it at if so? Thanks!

Kris, there were only 400 portfolios issued, while there were 1250 signed limiteds. If I had a matching set (which I don't--my book is #851, my portfolio is #158), I'd value it at $600+. The original price of the portfolio was $80.

John

Thanks John. That is a big help!!!!!! Im looking for that now:)
Kris, are you trying to match a S/L book and BOTH portfolio versions (red cover, black cover)? May be impossible.

Don't think the red ones were numbered. (Might be wrong)

My red portfolio is numbered 10 of 400. I have never known for certain how many red portfolios were done but I think that they are just part of the total 400 copy edition.

they're were supposed to be ten with Phil hale originals in each but he only did like 6. The first 10 were numbered and in a red portfolio

Interesting. Where did you hear that he only did 6? The original sketches are pretty small and just laid in to the portfolio. I have #10 and it has one of the sketches laid in.

Kingfan24
05-08-2015, 06:53 AM
Hey does anyone out here have a matching Insomnia and Portfolio? What would you value it at if so? Thanks!

Kris, there were only 400 portfolios issued, while there were 1250 signed limiteds. If I had a matching set (which I don't--my book is #851, my portfolio is #158), I'd value it at $600+. The original price of the portfolio was $80.

John

Thanks John. That is a big help!!!!!! Im looking for that now:)
Kris, are you trying to match a S/L book and BOTH portfolio versions (red cover, black cover)? May be impossible.

Don't think the red ones were numbered. (Might be wrong)

My red portfolio is numbered 10 of 400. I have never known for certain how many red portfolios were done but I think that they are just part of the total 400 copy edition.

they're were supposed to be ten with Phil hale originals in each but he only did like 6. The first 10 were numbered and in a red portfolio

Interesting. Where did you hear that he only did 6? The original sketches are pretty small and just laid in to the portfolio. I have #10 and it has one of the sketches laid in.

Hi Bob - I've talked to Todd who ran Glimmer Graphics and he has told me on a couple of occasions that Hale only completed 6 or 7 of the requested drawings. I actually bought an unnumbered red portfolio, a black numbered portfolio, and the proof prints from him awhile ago.

carlosdetweiller
05-08-2015, 07:59 AM
Hi Bob - I've talked to Todd who ran Glimmer Graphics and he has told me on a couple of occasions that Hale only completed 6 or 7 of the requested drawings. I actually bought an unnumbered red portfolio, a black numbered portfolio, and the proof prints from him awhile ago.

Interesting info. Thanks!

Randall Flagg
05-08-2015, 02:42 PM
Hi Bob - I've talked to Todd who ran Glimmer Graphics and he has told me on a couple of occasions that Hale only completed 6 or 7 of the requested drawings. I actually bought an unnumbered red portfolio, a black numbered portfolio, and the proof prints from him awhile ago.

Interesting info. Thanks!
This was discussed quite a long time ago "(4/29/2010). Update 4/29/10 Per Glimmer Graphics- Phil Hale submitted only ~ 7 of the 10 original art pieces requested. The original piece is not numbered, only added to a few Red folder editions."
The Catalog is your friend:
http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showwiki.php?title=Insomnia+Portfolio+-+S+L