Do You Want TDT to Compete as a Single Novel This Time?

[Jean]

"This time" means for CRA 2014.

I am totally sure that it is a single novel, and should be considered as such. I know that many people think the same (see our long discussion in Top 100 thread), and many don't - before we start our next CRA, I need to know, how many.

Option 3 is not a joke. I personally would love to see how other novels would do without TDT hanging over them.

Please vote!

[stroppygoblin]

I'm not sure its a good idea. As individual books, other tomes have a fighting chance. based on the reason why most of us are here, I'd say TDT as a whole would be the one book we would take to a desert island or save from our burning house...

[pathoftheturtle]

TDT has 8 volumes.

[Jean]

No, it doesn't.

[Odetta]

I actually voted for 3 because it may seem biased that a Dark Tower site and it's members would end up voting for it because they are fans. That being said, I don't know if it's really fair to leave it out either.

[fernandito]

Yes, I vote for TDT to be counted as one story.

[Heather19]

I voted to leave it out. I've always felt it has an unfair advantage here which isn't really surprising at all considering the site is named after it. I too would love to see how his other stories would rank without it. I think it would make a difference in the end when they go into the head to head battles.

[ladysai]

I voted to consider TDT as individual novels.
The novels were written and published individually, and even though the story continues from one novel to another, each is different in its own way. (IMHO)

[mae]

I agree that it's eight separate novels, and I voted as such, but I too wouldn't mind excluding them from overall voting or having a separate vote.

[Merlin1958]

This is very tough, but it should be considered a single novel, for these purposes. IMHO. After that, you can certainly rate the various installments, but TDT Is a 7 volume, complete story. To read any individually does not complete the overall story. Much like reading "Fellowship of the Rings" and nothing else. "Foundation", and no further. This is of course JMHO.

[pathoftheturtle]

I remember reading Asimov's amusement at fans expecting more Foundation story.

[pathoftheturtle]

It's just absurd in context. We do this contest in hopes of judging the quality of SK's many works. Are you suggesting there's no qualitative difference among DT books? They are separated by years, representing all different stages of his career! To label it a single work is an interesting conceit on certain levels, but taking that seriously does make it hard to compare to non-series novels, naturally.

[Merlin1958]

While "Path" is on my "ignore" list I can imagine that he has a contradictory reply. You speak as if folks actually "care" what you think! I for one do not. Live long and prosper.

[pathoftheturtle]

I've contradicted Jean and 6 other voters, but not the 9 people so far voting the other way. Doesn't make sense to say someone is contrarian in the middle of an opinion poll. But when it comes to constantly chiming in with thoughts that no one cares about, you are the expert, Bill.

[Jean]

While "Path" is on my "ignore" list I can imagine that he has a contradictory reply. You speak as if folks actually "care" what you think! I for one do not. Live long and prosper.I personally do care what Mike thinks.


But when it comes to constantly chiming in with thoughts that no one cares about, you are the expert, Bill.And I personally do care what Bill thinks.

Genarally, it has been our tradition to respect one another's opinion around here.

I wish you would either stop your feud, or, if you ignore each other, do so consistently.

Thank you.

[pathoftheturtle]

I have never ignored anyone, nor pretended to be ignoring them, and I will not agree to act that way in the future-- I face my problems as an adult. On this thread, I respect everyone's right to have their own opinion and to state relevant points. It's not my intention for that to become personal. But I won't take abuse.

[ladysai]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8WWp67DsTk4

[Jon]

Works that covered over 20 years of a writer's career and readers' imaginations is difficult to label a single work. In that 20 odd years, readers died and were born. Fans were won and lost...

[Jean]

so far we have 12 people who want all the 7 volumes of TDT to compete separately, and 10 people (7 + 3) who don't

we definitely need more votes

[pathoftheturtle]

I'd change my vote to not entered at all if that made it easier to run. It might be interesting for a change to see how that would affect the other proceedings.

[Jean]

I'll keep it in mind. I'd rather not change the figures in the poll now, because in this format (showing the voters) there might be some glitch. But I'll remember.

[Jean]

have just learned from WeDealInLead, here (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?17791-Stephen-King-s-50th-Published-Novel&p=817043&viewfull=1#post817043), that King too considers TDT to be one long novel.

[mae]

have just learned from WeDealInLead, here (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?17791-Stephen-King-s-50th-Published-Novel&p=817043&viewfull=1#post817043), that King too considers TDT to be one long novel.

That's a reference to this: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_Dark_Tower:_The_Wind_Through_the_Keyhole

King said, regarding the Dark Tower series, "It's not really done yet. Those seven books are really sections of one long über-novel."

So he's describing an ongoing series, like Harry Potter or Game of Thrones. But it's quite obvious each of the eight books is still a novel in its own right.

[Jon]

WTF does King know!

[pathoftheturtle]

"I wanted to write an epic, and in some ways, I succeeded. If you were to ask me why I wanted to do that, I couldn't tell you."

-- "On Being Nineteen"It's a great thing about America, that anybody who wants to can try to change the world.
Of course, the world may still stay the same if it wants to...
I mean, writers can fail; the public decides how to receive their work.
Anyhow, it is an interesting conceit, as I said before. Yet even if King does absolutely believe he managed to write it as a single novel, well, he also made choices such as to publish in series, so it still wouldn't necessarily mean that he would want I-VII entered as one book in CRA 2014. If the latter, I guess that he could come and vote like anyone.

[ladysai]

If the latter, I guess that he could come and vote like anyone.

Would that be cool or what?