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mae
02-26-2012, 02:31 PM
Designated in blue are the Round 1 (R1) bracket runners-up; designated in green are the R1 bracket winners; designated in maroon are the R1 wildcards. These designations remain for the duration of Round 2 (R2), but bear no effect on the book's standings. "FAS" stands for "Final Accumulated Score", a sum of the R1 "Final Average Score" (also "FAS"), and the Overall Average Grade ("OAG") obtained in Round 2.


Group 1: opened March 1
'Salem's Lot (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14606): rated AAA - OAG: 2.600000000 (86.67%), FAS: 6.978378378 (87.23%)
The Shining (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14605): rated AAA - OAG: 2.688888889 (89.63%), FAS: 7.300000000 (91.25%)
Night Shift (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14598): rated AAB - OAG: 2.512820513 (83.76%), FAS: 6.762820513 (84.54%)
The Stand (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14604): rated AAA - OAG: 2.741935484 (91.40%), FAS: 7.532633158 (94.16%)
The Dead Zone (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14603): rated AAA - OAG: 2.839080460 (94.64%), FAS: 7.005747127 (87.57%)


Group 2: opened March 3
The Long Walk (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14624): rated AAA - OAG: 2.611111111 (87.04%), FAS: 7.197318008 (89.97%)
The Dark Tower: The Gunslinger (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14622): rated AAA - OAG: 2.401960784 (80.07%), FAS: 6.840985174 (85.51%)
Different Seasons (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14626): rated AAA - OAG: 2.805555556 (93.52%), FAS: 7.305555556 (91.32%)
Pet Sematary (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14625): rated AAA - OAG: 2.756410256 (91.88%), FAS: 7.256410256 (90.71%)
The Talisman (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14621): rated AAA/B - OAG: 2.613333333 (87.11%), FAS: 7.067878788 (88.35%)


Group 3: opened March 8
Skeleton Crew (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14656): rated ABB - OAG : 2.500000000 (83.33%), FAS: 6.692307692 (83.65%)
It (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14657): rated AAA - OAG: 2.761904762 (92.06%), FAS: 7.495238095 (93.69%)
The Dark Tower II: The Drawing of the Three (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14659): rated AAA - OAG: 2.698924731 (89.96%), FAS: 7.330503678 (91.63%)
Misery (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14658): rated AAA - OAG: 2.858974359 (95.30%), FAS: 7.458974359 (93.24%)
Four Past Midnight (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14660): rated AA/BA - OAG: 2.333333333 (77.78%), FAS: 6.633333333 (82.92%)


Group 4: opened March 10
The Dark Tower III: The Waste Lands (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14670): rated AAA - OAG: 2.705128205 (90.17% ), FAS: 7.455128205 (93.19%)
Needful Things (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14672): rated AAA/B - OAG: 2.450980392 (81.70%), FAS: 6.831932773 (85.40%)
Nightmares & Dreamscapes (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14671): rated ABB - OAG: 2.270833333 (75.69%), FAS: 6.488224637 (81.10%)
The Green Mile (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14673): rated AAA - OAG: 2.766666667 (92.22%), FAS: 7.486666667 (93.58%)
Desperation (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14674): rated BBB - OAG: 2.366666667 (78.89%), FAS: 6.40666666 (80.08%)


Group 5: opened March 15
The Dark Tower IV: Wizard and Glass (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14711): rated AAA - OAG: 2.690476190 (89.68%), FAS: 6.912698412 (86.41%)
Hearts in Atlantis (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14714): rated AAA - OAG: 2.476190476 (82.54%), FAS: 6.601190476 (82.51%)
Black House (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14710): rated AAA - OAG: 2.722222222 (90.74%), FAS: 6.994949495 (87.44%)
Everything's Eventual (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14713): rated ABB - OAG: 2.277777778 (75.93%), FAS: 6.431623932 (80.40%)
The Dark Tower V: Wolves of the Calla (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14712): rated AAA - OAG: 2.560000000 (85.33%), FAS: 7.001176471 (87.51%)


Group 6: opened March 17
The Dark Tower VII: The Dark Tower (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14722): rated AAA - OAG: 2.576923077 (85.90%), FAS: 7.005494506 (87.57%)
Cell (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14721): rated ABB - OAG: 2.333333333 (77.78%), FAS: 6.466666666 (80.83%)
Duma Key (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14720): rated AAA - OAG: 2.814814815 (93.83%), FAS: 7.276353277 (90.95%)
Under the Dome (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14719): rated AAB - OAG: 2.479166667 (82.64%), FAS: 6.442129630 (80.53%)
11/22/63 (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14723): rated AAA - OAG: 2.777777778 (92.59%), FAS: 7.473429952 (93.42%)


Overall Round 2 Standings
The top ten books are promoted to the final Round 3

01. The Stand (7.532633158) (94.16%)
02. It (7.495238095) (93.69%)
03. The Green Mile (7.486666667) (93.58%)
04. 11/22/63 (7.473429952) (93.42%)
05. Misery (7.458974359) (93.24%)
06. The Waste Lands (7.455128205) (93.19%)
07. The Drawing of the Three (7.330503678) (91.63%)
08. Different Seasons (7.305555556) (91.32%)
09. The Shining (7.300000000) (91.25%)
10. Duma Key (7.276353277) (90.95%)
11. Pet Sematary (7.256410256) (90.71%)
12. The Long Walk (7.197318008) (89.97%)
13. The Talisman (7.067878788) (88.35%)
14. The Dead Zone (7.005747127) (87.57%)
15. The Dark Tower (7.005494506) (87.57%)
16. Wolves of the Calla (7.001176471) (87.51%)
17. Black House (6.994949495) (87.44%)
18. 'Salem's Lot (6.978378378) (87.23%)
19. Wizard and Glass (6.912698412) (86.41%)
20. The Gunslinger (6.840985174) (85.51%)
21. Needful Things (6.831932773) (85.40%)
22. Night Shift (6.762820513) (84.54%)
23. Skeleton Crew (6.692307692) (83.65%)
24. Four Past Midnight (6.633333333) (82.92%)
25. Hearts in Atlantis (6.601190476) (82.51%)
26. Nightmares & Dreamscapes (6.488224637) (81.10%)
27. Cell (6.466666666) (80.83%)
28. Under the Dome (6.442129630) (80.53%)
29. Everything's Eventual (6.431623932) (80.40%)
30. Desperation (6.406666667) (80.08%)
Merlin1958
02-26-2012, 06:19 PM
Gonna be a rough round. Lot's of favs going head to head!!!
Ben Staad
02-26-2012, 07:15 PM
Group 1 is going to be tough for me.
mae
02-26-2012, 08:49 PM
To refresh, books in Round 2 are NOT going head to head, just being graded individually. They will earn additional points, up to 3, and the top 10 then move on to Round 3, where books DO face off against each other.
Merlin1958
02-27-2012, 06:01 PM
To refresh, books in Round 2 are NOT going head to head, just being graded individually. They will earn additional points, up to 3, and the top 10 then move on to Round 3, where books DO face off against each other.

Oops, my bad!!!
mae
03-01-2012, 08:05 AM
And we're underway! :panic:
Jean
03-01-2012, 08:34 AM
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Iwritecode
03-01-2012, 10:56 AM
I'm not sure I'm going to participate in round 2. I have a difficult time grading books based on plot and character development. I just know that I like what I like. Explaining why I like something is tough.
mae
03-01-2012, 11:11 AM
Give them all As :)
Jean
03-01-2012, 11:15 AM
what pablo said

I too noticed that grading does not reflect my opinion of a book as a book. Too much depends on how well it was written; hell, everything depends on it. Maybe we should include this criterion next time
Jean
03-03-2012, 03:59 AM
dear friends, please, vote and discuss! there's been unprecedentedly little activity in those threads
mae
03-12-2012, 06:51 PM
Modified the listing in the first post somewhat to hopefully make the scoring read clearer and more informative.
mae
03-17-2012, 07:59 AM
The last group of Round 2 was posted today. Once every poll is closed, we will begin the exciting and final Round 3, tentatively scheduled for March 29.
Heather19
03-21-2012, 11:12 AM
Oh no, I was just looking at the current standings and The Long Walk is mostly likely not going to move on. Such a shame, it deserves to be there :(
mae
03-21-2012, 01:09 PM
Oh no, I was just looking at the current standings and The Long Walk is mostly likely not going to move on. Such a shame, it deserves to be there :(

Yes, it currently sits precariously in the tenth and final spot, with ten books remaining to be graded. Very likely it will get displaced, though not a given.
Jean
03-22-2012, 05:01 AM
but what is a given, it's that we can kiss Desperation good-bye

grrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrrr
mae
03-22-2012, 07:03 AM
And The Dead Zone :cry:
Jean
03-22-2012, 07:27 AM
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Iwritecode
03-22-2012, 01:43 PM
When this started I took all 60 books and sorted them into my order of preference. I had a top 20, a middle 20 and bottom 20. Actually it was a bottom 19 because there is one book I haven't read yet.

After the first round only 4 of my top 20, half of my middle 20 and all but 4 of my bottom 19 had been knocked out. Now with the second round not even complete all of my bottom 20 are out. 16 of my top 20 still remain including my overall #1.
Xile
03-22-2012, 03:16 PM
When this started I took all 60 books and sorted them into my order of preference. I had a top 20, a middle 20 and bottom 20. Actually it was a bottom 19 because there is one book I haven't read yet.

After the first round only 4 of my top 20, half of my middle 20 and all but 4 of my bottom 19 had been knocked out. Now with the second round not even complete all of my bottom 20 are out. 16 of my top 20 still remain including my overall #1.

No bets against you then.
Jean
03-24-2012, 09:05 AM
so, Wolves and BH don't make it? my favorite books don't make it? Wolves, BH, and Desperation???
Shannon
03-24-2012, 09:14 AM
Round Three Round Three! :)
Jean
03-24-2012, 09:16 AM
wait, we have yet to see another favorite of mine, Duma Key, getting kicked off

I'll close the last group of polls some time tomorrow
mae
03-24-2012, 09:30 AM
I think Duma Key should make it.
Heather19
03-24-2012, 09:44 AM
so, Wolves and BH don't make it? my favorite books don't make it? Wolves, BH, and Desperation???

At least we have IT! And hopefully Duma Key :)

A bunch of my favorites aren't moving on as well.
Jon
03-24-2012, 01:51 PM
I weep for BH!
Xile
03-24-2012, 06:32 PM
I weep for BH!

What the hell is BH?
divemaster
03-24-2012, 06:45 PM
Black House. A great book that, alas, appears not to be advancing to Round 3.
Shannon
03-24-2012, 07:47 PM
I was wondering if I could borrow our sister awards' results board for a second to promote a new type of awards ...

The 2012 Collector Awards! (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?14727-2012-Collector-Awards)

We are still on Round One, Question One and would love some more opinions! Check out the link above and vote! Question One will be ending and Question Two will be starting tomorrow (Sunday) around 12pm Pacific Daylight Time. Get your votes in now! :)
mae
03-27-2012, 08:25 AM
And so Round 2 is over! The following ten books have made it to Round 3, set to commence on March 29!

01. The Stand (7.532633158) (94.16%)
02. It (7.495238095) (93.69%)
03. The Green Mile (7.486666667) (93.58%)
04. 11/22/63 (7.473429952) (93.42%)
05. Misery (7.458974359) (93.24%)
06. The Waste Lands (7.455128205) (93.19%)
07. The Drawing of the Three (7.330503678) (91.63%)
08. Different Seasons (7.305555556) (91.32%)
09. The Shining (7.300000000) (91.25%)
10. Duma Key (7.276353277) (90.95%)
Garrell
03-27-2012, 08:32 AM
Roar 11/22/63!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mae
03-27-2012, 08:33 AM
Pet Sematary, my favorite of all, juuuuust missed the 10th place. Oh well.
Jean
03-27-2012, 08:35 AM
Duma Key just made it. Just.
mae
03-27-2012, 08:36 AM
For the record, these were the Top-10 books in prior years (final standings shown):

2009:

01. The Stand (8.425725232 - 94.67%)
02. The Drawing of the Three (8.233333333 - 92.51%)
03. It (8.187809036 - 92.00%)
04. The Dark Tower (7.993040293 - 89.81%)
05. The Waste Lands (7.722916667 - 86.77%)
06. The Talisman (7.677326108 - 86.26%)
07. The Long Walk (7.449095200 - 83.70%)
08. The Green Mile (7.390527065 - 83.04%)
09. The Shining (7.333188875 - 82.40%)
10. Different Seasons (7.209375000 - 81.00%)

2010:

01. The Stand (8.599695122 - 96.63%)
02. It (8.241979950 - 92.61%)
03. The Drawing of the Three (8.058128079 - 90.54%)
04. The Waste Lands (8.054834055 - 90.50%)
05. The Shining (7.818167267 - 87.84%)
06. The Talisman (7.806523264 - 87.71%)
07. 'Salem's Lot (7.645284238 - 85.90%)
08. The Green Mile (7.458091787 - 83.80%)
09. Different Seasons (7.424465812 - 83.42%)
10. Pet Sematary (7.358059778 - 82.67%)
skyofcrack
03-27-2012, 08:40 AM
I'm really surprised to see Green Mile rank so high.
mae
03-27-2012, 08:40 AM
I'm really surprised to see Green Mile rank so high.

Pleasantly surprised.
mae
03-27-2012, 08:42 AM
And it seems that DT2 and DT3 are consistently ranked as the best Dark Tower novels, so we can probably put that debate to rest :tongue:
Jean
03-27-2012, 08:57 AM
... no Desperation, no Black House, not a single time... no Wolves...

...but Duma Key did make it this year!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
mae
03-27-2012, 09:20 AM
Duma Key, yeah, first time for it in Round 3. I bet you're happy, Jean!
Jean
03-27-2012, 09:21 AM
happy? I am rapturous!

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Jean
03-28-2012, 08:22 AM
quoted from another thread:



rereading Pet Sematary. Fantastically, exceedingly good.

Indeed, so sad it just missed the third round of the CRAs.

I just don't understand it. The Shining there and Pet Sematary not? It doesn't make sense.

I am not talking about Green Mile or 11/22/63, because I know that people love them dearly for some reasons that have eluded me all this time; but The Shining? It is good, nice, classic, all that; Pet Sematary is a masterpiece.
mae
03-28-2012, 08:30 AM
Pet Sematary also missed the 2009 CRAs, and just barely made it in 2010, so I'm not surprised. Saddened, though, as it's my favorite King work.
Jean
03-28-2012, 08:47 AM
alas, there are only five slots in a Top Five list... but the sixth belongs to Pet Sematary, as far as bears are concerned
Garrell
03-28-2012, 09:08 AM
Salem's Lot, one of the best vampire novels ever and not in:(
Heather19
03-28-2012, 09:48 AM
I'm pretty bummed that 2 of my favorites The Long Walk and Pet Semetary are next in line and just barely missed out. I'd definitely put them in there above others. Jean, do you have a top 10? I've been thinking of maybe trying to put together a ranking of the ones I've read.
Jean
03-28-2012, 10:00 AM
I'm pretty bummed that 2 of my favorites The Long Walk and Pet Semetary are next in line and just barely missed out. I'd definitely put them in there above others. Jean, do you have a top 10? I've been thinking of maybe trying to put together a ranking of the ones I've read.do it! I'd be extremely interested to know

I think for now my top ten is (without the DT)

1. It
2. The Stand.
3. Black House
4. Desperation
5. Duma Key
6. Pet Sematary
7. The Dead Zone
8. The Tommyknockers
9. Misery
10. From a Buick 8

The last place is very uncertain. It could just as well be 'Salem's Lot, or The Girl WLTG, Needful Things, or Under the Dome. I am doing a major (not total, though) re-read now, so there may be some changes.
Jean
03-28-2012, 10:09 AM
oh shit, disregard the above post completely! I forgot about Bachman

I got to fit Long Walk and Roadwork somewhere.
mae
03-28-2012, 10:16 AM
What about Insomnia, Jean? :)
Jean
03-28-2012, 10:19 AM
see? top 1 is possible, top 5 extremely hard, top 10 unthinkable
Heather19
03-28-2012, 11:02 AM
oh shit, disregard the above post completely! I forgot about Bachman

I got to fit Long Walk and Roadwork somewhere.

I was going to ask where The Long Walk was :D
I'll try to put mine together.
mae
03-28-2012, 11:09 AM
And so Round 2 is over! The following ten books have made it to Round 3, set to commence on March 29!

01. The Stand (7.532633158) (94.16%)
02. It (7.495238095) (93.69%)
03. The Green Mile (7.486666667) (93.58%)
04. 11/22/63 (7.473429952) (93.42%)
05. Misery (7.458974359) (93.24%)
06. The Waste Lands (7.455128205) (93.19%)
07. The Drawing of the Three (7.330503678) (91.63%)
08. Different Seasons (7.305555556) (91.32%)
09. The Shining (7.300000000) (91.25%)
10. Duma Key (7.276353277) (90.95%)

I really don't have any problem with the Top-10 going into Round 3. All are great books. King is just such an amazing writer than it's nearly impossible to limit his oeuvre to just the ten best books.

Also, the above books break down chronologically thus:

1970s: The Shining (1977), The Stand (1978)
1980s: Different Seasons (1982), It (1986), The Drawing of the Three (1987), Misery (1987)
1990s: The Waste lands (1991), The Green Mile (1996)
2000s: Duma Key (2008)
2010s: 11/22/63 (2011)

So a rather fair and balanced career retrospective, in my view.