The eBay BS Game: Questionable items, Stephen King signatures, sellers

[Randall Flagg]

I am not a good judge of King sigs, but what the heck. All three are legit.

[Darkmaniscoming]

It just came to my attention that after Eddy Rawleas little signature game on this thread, perhaps people think that i am playing a similar game with these three and therefor do not want to be "tricked" or something etc.

I am seriously looking for opinions as these to me are on the edge of real and I just can't commit to saying for sure.

This is all I have for provenance be it bullshit or not~

Guy says that 1 and 3 were signed in Nashville in 2000 in the same week at a hotel he was staying at. He got his "friend" to go up to King for the one in pen as he had already done so previously with the 3rd one.
The silver one, he says was signed in 1985 in person in LA "the first time I met him" couldn't say much else.

Please say anything you feel as maybe I've been staring at them far too long.....
Thanks

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Thanks shibus. Things have been very difficult fighting the fire(s). I appreciate your comments, as well as those from others.
Darkman did ask for thoughts on the signatures of three images he posted.
Perhaps we can move on and render opinions on them.

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/attachment.php?attachmentid=1859&d=1252179461

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/attachment.php?attachmentid=1860&d=1252179521

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/attachment.php?attachmentid=1861&d=1252179549

I like the Silver Bullet sig. I remember King signing a few items in the 80's with a silver pen to go along with the movie. That sig is fine IMO.

Still discussing sig 1 & 3

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[johnsmith87]

I'm not even sure what this is, but the signature is a total fake. Thoughts?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-Carrie-Gunslinger-IT-Signed-Autograph-FDC_W0QQitemZ370167196090QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item562faf29ba&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

The FDC has no connection with King. I have seen this obvious fake before.

[Darkmaniscoming]

No fairly about it...its shite..



I'm not even sure what this is, but I'm fairly sure the signature is a fake. Any thoughts?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-Carrie-Gunslinger-IT-Signed-Autograph-FDC_W0QQitemZ370167196090QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item562faf29ba&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

[Randall Flagg]

Fake.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

I haven't done this in a long time........but......


Looks like we have our next contestant in :excited: "Let's Play Ebay BS" :excited:

Seller autographedcards :clap: COME ON DOWN:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-Carrie-Gunslinger-IT-Signed-Autograph-FDC_W0QQitemZ370167196090QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item562faf29ba&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

OK DT Members. You set the BS meter.

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[lophophoras]

I haven't done this in a long time........but......


Looks like we have our next contestant in :excited: "Let's Play Ebay BS" :excited:

Seller autographedcards :clap: COME ON DOWN:

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-Carrie-Gunslinger-IT-Signed-Autograph-FDC_W0QQitemZ370167196090QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item562faf29ba&_trksid=p3286.m20.l1116

OK DT Members. You set the BS meter.

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

My 8 year old niece could do a better forgery than that.

:wtf:

[jhanic]

Reported.

John

[gsvec]

Reported. It's so fake it's laughable.

[Sam]

Make that a triple.

[Darkmaniscoming]

Hey can I ask how you guys report an item?

[gsvec]

On the right of the listing page under all the seller and misc info, there's a "REPORT ITEM" link.

[Darkmaniscoming]

cool...and what happens when you go there?

[gsvec]

You get a bunch of dropdown reasons, then subreasons, etc., then a page to give details about why you think the way you do. Try it on that FDC auction. :D

[Darkmaniscoming]

And then what happens?

[divemaster]

I reported it too. The auction item title is totally bogus. What does "Carrie" and "The Gunslinger" have to do with this envelope? Interesting though, the seller also just says "autographed" but as far as I can tell nowhere in the description does he claim King signed the item.

[Darkmaniscoming]

Does anyone ever contact you about it after you report it?



You get a bunch of dropdown reasons, then subreasons, etc., then a page to give details about why you think the way you do. Try it on that FDC auction. :D

Sellers put those in so that it comes up in searches, not really that shocking.

I think you guys should have some fun with this one...contact seller ask him stuff, when where how etc...I wouldn't call this a forgery as much as i would say its just dumb...:)

[Rahfa]

Does anyone ever contact you about it after you report it?

I feel like you're taking four posts to make a point...

[gsvec]

You get a canned email from eBay thanking you for reporting it, then nada.

[Darkmaniscoming]

Me Rahfa? I'm not trying to make a point, I just want to know what ebay does when they get these reports. So do they contact you after a report?
Is it anonymous? Does the seller know who did it? that kind of stuff...






Does anyone ever contact you about it after you report it?

I feel like you're taking four posts to make a point...

[Patrick]

No, they do not tell the seller who reported their listing. That would simply be telling the seller who to f**k with on eBay later.

As Gretchen said, you receive an acknowledgment note from eBay, then nothing else ever.

My impression is that if enough (no idea how many) people report an auction, the auction gets pulled. So something happens behind the scenes. At least that's what we've seen a number of times since this thread began - auctions of obvious fakes suddenly disappearing from eBay after being reported by multiple eBay members.

[Darkmaniscoming]

I just tried it!!!!! It's fun!!! I got a message from ebay right away!!!!
Man they are really on top of it, even on labor day.....
So how many more do we need before it gets taken down??

[Rahfa]

Me Rahfa? I'm not trying to make a point, I just want to know what ebay does when they get these reports. So do they contact you after a report?
Is it anonymous? Does the seller know who did it? that kind of stuff...






Does anyone ever contact you about it after you report it?

I feel like you're taking four posts to make a point...

But you already know the answers...

[Darkmaniscoming]

No actually I don't...I'm trying to figure out where these damn reports go to....?

I think they might go to the Grave site of Gandhi, but I am still trying to find out exactly.

[Darkmaniscoming]

I believe this one was removed after it was re-listed so I'm not sure you will see it...Ralph you will remember it as the one with kindergarten scribbles on it. Geralds Game I believe...correction ROSE MADDER

I guess many people reported this ultimate piece of crap as well as contacted the seller who thought that he/she was the only person in the world who knew what Kings real signature looked like.
It was CRAP beyond a doubt.....

I would now (with Ralphs permission) like to present this Ebay seller:

gyoung08

with the
EBAY ULTIMATE BS SELLER STUPIDEST STATEMENT OF ALL TIME AWARD

Inserted as spoiler because many of you don't need to read it
(my first spoiler...hope it works)

Your mother swallowed it with her fat crotch! Quit fuckin writing to me. But to throw this shit in your face I just got it Authenticated. HAHAHA LOSER!

I believe this has busted the meter beyond repair.

Those in favor please say "I"

Thank You.





Did anyone see this one?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rose-Madder-by-Stephen-King-1995-Hardcover_W0QQitemZ250487895894QQcmdZViewItemQQptZ US_Fiction_Books?hash=item3a523df756&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

[jemaher]

I believe this one was removed after it was re-listed so I'm not sure you will see it...Ralph you will remember it as the one with kindergarten scribbles on it. Geralds Game I believe...correction ROSE MADDER

I guess many people reported this ultimate piece of crap as well as contacted the seller who thought that he/she was the only person in the world who knew what Kings real signature looked like.
It was CRAP beyond a doubt.....

I would now (with Ralphs permission) like to present this Ebay seller:

gyoung08

with the
EBAY ULTIMATE BS SELLER STUPIDEST STATEMENT OF ALL TIME AWARD

Inserted as spoiler because many of you don't need to read it
(my first spoiler...hope it works)

Your mother swallowed it with her fat crotch! Quit fuckin writing to me. But to throw this shit in your face I just got it Authenticated. HAHAHA LOSER!

I believe this has busted the meter beyond repair.

Those in favor please say "I"

Thank You.





Did anyone see this one?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Rose-Madder-by-Stephen-King-1995-Hardcover_W0QQitemZ250487895894QQcmdZViewItemQQptZ US_Fiction_Books?hash=item3a523df756&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

wow that is impressively bad!

[Patrick]

Oh yeah, that is horrible.

Darkman, thank you for spoilerizing that one quote. Did the seller actually say that? In an email or what?

[Darkmaniscoming]

YUP I could never make up something like that.

Email to Summer after she told him very politely that it was a waste of time for him to continue spending $3 weekly on this listing as no one will buy it and it was undoubtedly not authentic (in case he didn't know that)

Quite a piece of work, this person.



Oh yeah, that is horrible.

Darkman, thank you for spoilerizing that one quote. Did the seller actually say that? In an email or what?

[Gris]

I'd have him banned from ebay just based on his response to you. Why has this not been destroyed like every other fake you guys find when this is so much worse?

[Randall Flagg]

Certainly an imaginative response.

[Darkmaniscoming]

Sometimes when an item is REALLY bad and it's obvious that the seller is an obvious FRAUD, as opposed to someone who is just has made an error...it is best to let them stuff both their feet in their mouth before they get served:

A nice warm cup of shut the F@ck up along with some tasty get the hell off Ebay cookies

(I love this spoiler thing now)



I'd have him banned from ebay just based on his response to you. Why has this not been destroyed like every other fake you guys find when this is so much worse?

[gsvec]

That sig is one of the worst! Reported.

[Darkmaniscoming]

OK so far still a little dead locked on these from the feedback I got from several good people....nobody could say 100% fake and no one could say 100% real..........focusing on the 2 allegedly from Nashville (1st and 3rd)

Thoughts on the the black marker one were generally of a positive
The pen one many of us had a problem with.....being allegedly both signed in the same time period kind of screw it up for everybody I think

So those 2 were sent to the SK office for an opinion....the response came back today.....

God i love the spoiler button now...(no f words on this one)

Steve was in Nashville in 2000 so that part works for it. One is done with a Sharpie so I can see that it would look a little different. I'd go with it being his signature on both.

:borg:




Thanks shibus. Things have been very difficult fighting the fire(s). I appreciate your comments, as well as those from others.
Darkman did ask for thoughts on the signatures of three images he posted.
Perhaps we can move on and render opinions on them.

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/attachment.php?attachmentid=1859&d=1252179461

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/attachment.php?attachmentid=1860&d=1252179521

http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/attachment.php?attachmentid=1861&d=1252179549

[Randall Flagg]

Just to be clear, I gave an amateur opinion as to whether the King signatures where likely to be authentic. I probably would not have even responded if I knew my thoughts would be used as part of a group endorsement for selling the books. My opinion and $5 gets a coffee at Starbucks.
Since the signatures were not dated, the fact King was (purportedly) in Nashville in 2000 only verifies the seller's "story", not that King actually signed those books then and there.
Just my own little caveat.

[Darkmaniscoming]

Hey Randall...I completely caught that about your post...it was quite clear.
I used the PM's I got from many sources as my general consensus.
I was going to sell the books because I dont like anything in my collection that has any hint of uncertainty and thought someone might take a chance and find it a good grab.

I will keep the HC and perhaps sell/trade the SC as I dont care for these.
I trust the final source I sought as the final word on the items authenticity.
I take their word over any COA on the planet....

[Randall Flagg]

Best of luck in the sales.:)

[Darkmaniscoming]

RRRRRRRR!!!

http://cgi.ebay.ca/THE-DEAD-ZONE-by-Stephen-King-1stEd-HB-DJ-NEW-MINT_W0QQitemZ390090437267QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Fi ction_Books?hash=item5ad333b293&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

[Brice]

RRRRRRRR!!!

http://cgi.ebay.ca/THE-DEAD-ZONE-by-Stephen-King-1stEd-HB-DJ-NEW-MINT_W0QQitemZ390090437267QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Fi ction_Books?hash=item5ad333b293&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14


So...it's JUST like a first edition except for...umm...the differences. :orely:

[jhanic]

Still in the original shrinkwrap, but they know there's no price on the inside flap. Hmmm!

John

[Brice]

They probably just x-rayed it, John.

Surely someone using that many different fonts and colors and sizes of print wouldn't decieve people. :lol:

[jhanic]

Of course not!

John

[Darkmaniscoming]

I bought a book from this piece of work a few years ago, "signed stated first edition."
it arrived and it said clearly "reprinted four times "
He told me that he apllies special "pin pricks" to his books and if I dare tried to return it he would know I switched them and he would leave bad feedback..
(that was before when sellers could leave bad feedback)
I paid $20 for the book so it wasn't worth the hassle, I walked away.
Amazing what people will do to make $10?

same thing:

http://cgi.ebay.ca/FIRESTARTER-by-Stephen-King-1stEd-HB-DJ-NM_W0QQitemZ400071465978QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Fict ion_Books?hash=item5d261e1bfa&_trksid=p3911.c0.m14

[Gris]

what's amazing to me is that the auctions all state point blank that they are BCEs and he still has bids on them.

[Darkmaniscoming]

I bet the bidders dont see it clearly through all his nonsense fonts and useless info.
This guy definitely doesn't mind having an upset buyer once in a while.
rrrrrrrrrrrrrrr.

[Brice]

Hey Randall...I completely caught that about your post...it was quite clear.
I used the PM's I got from many sources as my general consensus.
I was going to sell the books because I dont like anything in my collection that has any hint of uncertainty and thought someone might take a chance and find it a good grab.

I will keep the HC and perhaps sell/trade the SC as I dont care for these.
I trust the final source I sought as the final word on the items authenticity.
I take their word over any COA on the planet....

Assholes like that are exactly the reason why feedback from a stranger means absolutely nothing to me. I mean I suppose if someone had a ton of bad feedback I'd hesitate, but really I hardly even look at that stuff. It's basically meaningless IMO.

[Randall Flagg]

They did say Firestarter is a "Must Read" for King First Edition Collections.:P
Caveat emptor.

[Fsmdr]

I've bought from them before too. It was not in the condition described. I was also told about the 'special' mark he placed in a certain page in the book in case I decide to switch the book when I return it. Heck, why would I switch the crappy condition book, anyway?. But I did send the book back and received a refund minus shipping.

[Patrick]

I was oddly mesmerized by the varying fonts and colors and silver-tongued carnival barker patter.

[turtlex]

I was oddly mesmerized by the varying fonts and colors and silver-tongued carnival barker patter.

:lol:

[Darkmaniscoming]

Funny..."carnival" was EXACTLY the word I was thinking...
I think creating these adds from his template for all these years and staring at them non stop has probably caused much brain damage to this poor honest seller....

:beat:



I was oddly mesmerized by the varying fonts and colors and silver-tongued carnival barker patter.

[Patrick]

Funny..."carnival" was EXACTLY the word I was thinking...
I think creating these adds from his template for all these years and staring at them non stop has probably caused much brain damage to this poor honest seller....

:beat:



I was oddly mesmerized by the varying fonts and colors and silver-tongued carnival barker patter.

I think eBay is his part time job. I think his full-time job is a long career writing all that junk mail that comes to me by snailmail every day.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

I have gone round and round with this seller before. He used to live about an hour from me. I've offered several times to visit his place and give him a free lesson in seller etiquette and show him what true first editions look like.

:doh: He never responded for some reason

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[jhanic]

Why let the facts get in the way of a good story?

John

[Patrick]

Why let the facts get in the way of a good story sale?

JohnI corrected that for you, John.

[jhanic]

Thanks! :P

John

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Why let the facts get in the way of a good story sale?

JohnI corrected that for you, John.


Thanks! :P

John

:wtf::rofl::rofl::lol::wtf:

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[agrabin]

I know these pictures aren't the best, but your thoughts on them if you will please...the 'K' on the second one looks a bit dodgy but the rest looks good - well, to me anyway. If it's any help they were supposed to be both signed at one place in 1998.

[Sam]

Is there any way you can make the pictures bigger? I'm having trouble seeing the signatures.

[EddyRawlea]

even without better pics, i would say real.




I know these pictures aren't the best, but your thoughts on them if you will please...the 'K' on the second one looks a bit dodgy but the rest looks good - well, to me anyway. If it's any help they were supposed to be both signed at one place in 1998.

[EddyRawlea]

PS why am I listed as JFK?
Darkman did not shoot me :dance:

[agrabin]

Is there any way you can make the pictures bigger? I'm having trouble seeing the signatures.

I'll try but might lose some resolution..won't be until tomorrow though - thanks

[Patrick]

PS why am I listed as JFK?
Darkman did not shoot me :dance:
Because your post count was 19. It changed again when you posted this question and increased your post count. There are a few hidden member titles like that - related to post count.

[agrabin]

Is there any way you can make the pictures bigger? I'm having trouble seeing the signatures.

Best I can do...

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Is there any way you can make the pictures bigger? I'm having trouble seeing the signatures.

Best I can do...

I don't think any of us would be able to make a judgement based on those images. Sorry.

[Sam]

Agree with Mr. RT I do.

[Darkmaniscoming]

I'm with Eddy, I would still say real, even without better pics, although the images are horrible, I would definitely take the chance if the price was reasonable (under $100 each??) to see them closer. I wouldn't pay more though without better pics.
I do think better images will show them as very good and real.

[agrabin]

New pictures of the sigs...

[Darkmaniscoming]

Recent signed real is still my opinion.
By recent i mean 10 years, i'm a geezer...:)




New pictures of the sigs...

[Sam]

They do look like recent sigs. Mostly like those from the earlier part of the 2000's than the most recent ones from the last year or so that I've seen. All I can say is that if they ARE fakes, they're good fakes.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

New pictures of the sigs...

:thumbsup: Sigs are good and very recent by the way.



Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[agrabin]

Thanks all...very much appreciated :)

[jonahwriter]

Hello, I'm still kind of new here so I apologise if I have posted this topic in the wrong forum or on a wrong part of the board.

I just bought a signed King book on ebay and was wondering if anyone here, could give me their opinions on whether they think it is a genuine signature - or not? Would it be ok to post the picture from ebay here?

Thanks

Jonah

[jhanic]

Welcome to Calvin's Corner!

We'd be glad to help you, Jonah. Please post the picture or the eBay link. (I hope, for your sake, that it's genuine. If it's not, it's too late!)

John

[Darkmaniscoming]

Lets see it...!!!!

[jonahwriter]

Thanks guys. Can't get image to load so here's the link:

http://cgi.ebay.ie/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=130330647732&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

[Dolan]

I say it's authentic

[gsvec]

Looks good to me - and a great price!

[Darkmaniscoming]

Fantastic sample...no worries there...great price too.

[jonahwriter]

Thanks guys. You've put my mind at ease. The fact that no one else had bid on it and I got such a good price, made me wary.

I've collected a few Kings but this is my first King signature (I have several Straub signed books, but find them much easier to obtain). I know I'll be addicted to finding more. Was really disappointed to hear King won't be visiting UK or Ireland on his Dome tour. Was hoping for a personally signed book - and preferably my favourite, IT.

Thanks again for the help! :)

[DavidK44]

Hello,

I'm relatively new to the board, although I've been lurking for a while. I've been collecting King first prints whenever I find them in used bookstores. A couple of years ago I came across two signed books - 'Different Seasons' and 'Danse Macabre'. Actually, I didn't notice they were signed until a few days after I purchased them - I only looked at the copyright pages to check for first edition/first printing status. The bookstore hadn't noticed they were firsts, as they were priced below cover, and I was happy enough to get them at that prices.

I have a couple of signed books by King (Postscripts 10, 'He is Legend') but the signatures on the earlier books is enough different that I'm not sure of them. I'm hoping to get opinions from the group. Even if they're not valid signatures, the books are still first prints that I got at a great price.

Thanks for any help you can provide!

Regards, DavidK44

Danse Macabre:

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo257/phelsuma44/IMG_0433b.jpg

Different Seasons:

http://i381.photobucket.com/albums/oo257/phelsuma44/IMG_0434b.jpg

[Patrick]

Welcome out of lurkdom and onto the boards, DavidK!

I have moved your post into this thread so that it garners the proper interest. I'm sure our knowledgeable members will be happy to opine.

Please make yourself at home and join in the various discussions. Also, get your post count up to 5 so you can get full member benefits.

[DavidK44]

Welcome out of lurkdom and onto the boards, DavidK!

I have moved your post into this thread so that it garners the proper interest. I'm sure our knowledgeable members will be happy to opine.

Please make yourself at home and join in the various discussions. Also, get your post count up to 5 so you can get full member benefits.

Thanks! Wasn't sure exactly where to post....

Regards, DavidK44

[Patrick]

Welcome out of lurkdom and onto the boards, DavidK!

I have moved your post into this thread so that it garners the proper interest. I'm sure our knowledgeable members will be happy to opine.

Please make yourself at home and join in the various discussions. Also, get your post count up to 5 so you can get full member benefits.

Thanks! Wasn't sure exactly where to post....

Regards, DavidK44
No worries. It isn't clear because the thread title says eBay. Anyway, we post any signature validity type questions here.

Thanks also for the additional info in the Joe Hill thread, I missed that earlier.

[Patrick]

Thanks guys. You've put my mind at ease. The fact that no one else had bid on it and I got such a good price, made me wary.

I've collected a few Kings but this is my first King signature (I have several Straub signed books, but find them much easier to obtain). I know I'll be addicted to finding more. Was really disappointed to hear King won't be visiting UK or Ireland on his Dome tour. Was hoping for a personally signed book - and preferably my favourite, IT.

Thanks again for the help! :)
Congrats on a good find, Jonahwriter, and welcome to Calvin's Corner.

As the question has been answered, I have merged this thread into the existing "eBay BS Game" thread.

[Darkmaniscoming]

Brutally bad....:(
Thank god the bastard didn't do it to a macdonald first.
At least you didn't pay big money...:)

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Those 2 signatures are really bad. They make the books worthless. At least you did not pay a lot for them. Keep them for reading copies.

[jhanic]

Looks good to me too. Congratulations on a great buy!

John

[Randall Flagg]

I think the signatures were not done by Stephen King. I'd tear out the "signed" pages and shred them-that way a future owner won't possibly be fooled.
Welcome to the boards, hope to see you around.

[DavidK44]

I think the signatures were not done by Stephen King. I'd tear out the "signed" pages and shred them-that way a future owner won't possibly be fooled.
Welcome to the boards, hope to see you around.

No big surprise - I've been assuming that they weren't authentic. I have another first print copy of each book, so it doesn't put a hole in my collection. The dustjackets were in excellent shape on these two, so I swapped them.

I'll probably cross out the signatures and give the books to my brother, who's also a King fan but doesn't care much about the collectibility of the books themselves.

I've wondered occasionally about who did the signatures, and why. If it had been to increase the value, they obviously gave up on that idea, as the books were in a used bookstore not known for having collectibles, and not labeled as signed. In any case, eBay would have been the way to go if they were looking to scam someone. So, they messed up two very nice first prints, and got nothing out of it. Weird.

Thanks everyone for the input!

Regards, DavidK44

[jonahwriter]

Thanks guys. You've put my mind at ease. The fact that no one else had bid on it and I got such a good price, made me wary.

I've collected a few Kings but this is my first King signature (I have several Straub signed books, but find them much easier to obtain). I know I'll be addicted to finding more. Was really disappointed to hear King won't be visiting UK or Ireland on his Dome tour. Was hoping for a personally signed book - and preferably my favourite, IT.

Thanks again for the help! :)
Congrats on a good find, Jonahwriter, and welcome to Calvin's Corner.

As the question has been answered, I have merged this thread into the existing "eBay BS Game" thread.


Thank you! And now I know where to come for help next time! Love this board. I can't wait to start reading more on "The Dark Tower" books. I only ever read the first one, and everything else by King, including his newest "Dome", and I'm just now finally starting on all 7 of the "Dark Towers". I'm also a big fan of Peter Straub. Are many people here Straub fans/collect Straub signatures too? Looking forward to "The Skylark/Dark Matter". So glad to have found this forum. Everyone is very friendly and knowledgeable. J :)

[Darkmaniscoming]

I have a few straub signed...I think you will find collectors of pretty much evrything on here.
Glad we could help you and welcome!

[gsvec]

I've wondered occasionally about who did the signatures, and why. If it had been to increase the value, they obviously gave up on that idea, as the books were in a used bookstore not known for having collectibles, and not labeled as signed. In any case, eBay would have been the way to go if they were looking to scam someone. So, they messed up two very nice first prints, and got nothing out of it. Weird.
I'm thinking that maybe they WERE on eBay at some point and someone reported them as counterfeit signatures. The seller got caught and just ditched 'em. :wtf:

My two cents!!

[Brice]

or someone was practicing?

[Sam]

On a first edition? Possible, but you'd think they would know enough to use a book club edition for that. Or a plain piece of paper, they're worth about the same in the end.

[DavidK44]

I'm thinking that maybe they WERE on eBay at some point and someone reported them as counterfeit signatures. The seller got caught and just ditched 'em. :wtf:

My two cents!!

I hadn't thought of that explanation. Seems possible...

[Patrick]

I'm thinking that maybe they WERE on eBay at some point and someone reported them as counterfeit signatures. The seller got caught and just ditched 'em. :wtf:

My two cents!!

I hadn't thought of that explanation. Seems possible...
Or some poor unsuspecting bastard bought them, then figured out they were fake, and just ditched 'em in disgust.

That would be sad though.

[Rusher]

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-Signed-1st-Four-Past-Midnight-with-COA_W0QQitemZ380162174784QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Fic tion_Books?hash=item58836e6f40&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

I was looking at this signature for awhile and I still don't like it... but I am no expert. Im certainly not going to buy the book, but wondered what you all thought of the signature. Even though it comes with a COA , I still think I would call it a forgery. Anyone agree or disagree ? Im curious to know

[jhanic]

Fake. A COA is worth only the paper it's printed on.

John

[gsvec]

Pure garbage. Reported.

[Hutch]

I think the letter may have come from Catevann (ebay ID) she had a couple of other aliases. She was listed as a notorious repeat forger on SKFAKES.


http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-Signed-1st-Four-Past-Midnight-with-COA_W0QQitemZ380162174784QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Fic tion_Books?hash=item58836e6f40&_trksid=p3286.c0.m14

I was looking at this signature for awhile and I still don't like it... but I am no expert. Im certainly not going to buy the book, but wondered what you all thought of the signature. Even though it comes with a COA , I still think I would call it a forgery. Anyone agree or disagree ? Im curious to know

[Rahfa]

Gad..."Catevan"...

She was like the Charles Campion of the entire fake industry...

[gsvec]

:wtf:

Rahfa, I love that analogy!!

[Patrick]

So do you think this eBay seller is another alias, or is this someone who got taken in at an earlier time and is now selling the book?

[Hutch]

yes to both

So do you think this eBay seller is another alias, or is this someone who got taken in at an earlier time and is now selling the book?

[carlosdetweiller]

I'm also a big fan of Peter Straub. Are many people here Straub fans/collect Straub signatures too? Looking forward to "The Skylark/Dark Matter".

Yes. Send me a PM if you want to talk Straub. Or start a Peter Straub thread. There is a Joe Hill thread in this forum so why not start one for other authors as well?

I've read an ARC of THE SKYLARK and found it to be wonderful (as I knew it would be). I can't imagine, though, what will be edited out for the trade edition titled A DARK MATTER.

[possum]

Back on 9-2 I posted asking for information about the ebay seller wanderingwriter1966. I held off on posting more as I was in the process of getting a refund. Having obtained the refund I can provide the story. I ignored my own advice and bid on a purported signed copy of Pynchon's Vineland. I am aware of how unlikely this is but the seller had a detailed story about having obtained the book directly from Pynchon to benefit a small library in Texas. I called the library and they affirmed that the seller was obtaining signed books for this purpose. So I bid. The promised letter of provenance was not from Pynchon but only a statement from the seller. I asked if the seller had anything, even the mailing material with a return address to substantiate the story. The signature looked very good but there are only two Pynchon signatures available for comparison.

At this point the seller's story started to fall apart. I wont' belabor the details. But I decided to contact Pynchon's agent who is also his wife. After much begging and promises not to involve the author in a private dispute, an agency employee confirmed that the signature was a fake.

I also found out that wanderingwriter1966 is the same as fire-house-books and its past incarnations as renaissance_auctions and nikawanderer1971. Diane Hinkle is partner with my seller Joshua Edwards. (I ran the seller's address through the Bexar county tax records to get the owner's name.)

Seller accused me of all sorts of things in multiple lengthy emails. He even tried to spin the agent's response as proof of authenticity! Seller sold one other "signed" Pynchon which has not shown up in feedback so I suspect the other buyer also backed out.

As a sidenote: the seller does obtain some genuine signed books by various authors but most of these are low-dollar books readily available on ABE for under $30. So due your due diligence before buying. I have given up on signed books

[jhanic]

Possum, thanks for the very, very valuable advice and information about this seller.

John

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

Thanks possum. Very helpful. :thumbsup:

[Darkmaniscoming]

Back on 9-2 I posted asking for information about the ebay seller wanderingwriter1966. I held off on posting more as I was in the process of getting a refund. Having obtained the refund I can provide the story. I ignored my own advice and bid on a purported signed copy of Pynchon's Vineland. I am aware of how unlikely this is but the seller had a detailed story about having obtained the book directly from Pynchon to benefit a small library in Texas. I called the library and they affirmed that the seller was obtaining signed books for this purpose. So I bid. The promised letter of provenance was not from Pynchon but only a statement from the seller. I asked if the seller had anything, even the mailing material with a return address to substantiate the story. The signature looked very good but there are only two Pynchon signatures available for comparison.

At this point the seller's story started to fall apart. I wont' belabor the details. But I decided to contact Pynchon's agent who is also his wife. After much begging and promises not to involve the author in a private dispute, an agency employee confirmed that the signature was a fake.

I also found out that wanderingwriter1966 is the same as fire-house-books and its past incarnations as renaissance_auctions and nikawanderer1971. Diane Hinkle is partner with my seller Joshua Edwards. (I ran the seller's address through the Bexar county tax records to get the owner's name.)

Seller accused me of all sorts of things in multiple lengthy emails. He even tried to spin the agent's response as proof of authenticity! Seller sold one other "signed" Pynchon which has not shown up in feedback so I suspect the other buyer also backed out.

As a sidenote: the seller does obtain some genuine signed books by various authors but most of these are low-dollar books readily available on ABE for under $30. So due your due diligence before buying. I have given up on signed books

Did you get your money back?? I've got a real passion for this clown, sounds like we should have a chat possum....pm me.

srry just reread and realized you did....we should still chat...

[possum]

A quick note: wanderingwriter1966 has now morphed into paladin-collectible-books for most of his "signed" books while keeping wanderwriter1966 for low end items. The new identity was created this August; the same time i started questioning the legitimacy of his goods.

The wandering site claims that he is selling off a personal collection under the name "collector's corner" to keep things separate for tax purposes. Odd, since all the sales go to the same paladin rare books paypall account.

His new ID also bears the ABE logo even though he does not sell on ABE (unless he has yet another AKA). Since I'm a vindictive person I just snitched to ABE about the logo.

You would think ebay would limit the number of seller IDs. Sort of makes feedback even more of a joke.

[divemaster]

The wandering site claims that he is selling off a personal collection under the name "collector's corner" to keep things separate for tax purposes. Odd, since all the sales go to the same paladin rare books paypall account.



I don't think I've even seen an auction from palidan-collectible books that I thought was legit.

[Hutch]

I'd be interested to know how this 1980's signature got into a copy of JAS.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-Autograph-Signed-1st-Edition-RARE-Book_W0QQitemZ260493815483QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item3ca6a42ebb

[turtlex]

I'd be interested to know how this 1980's signature got into a copy of JAS.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-Autograph-Signed-1st-Edition-RARE-Book_W0QQitemZ260493815483QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item3ca6a42ebb


Obviously they have a time machine, Hutch. Jeeze.

:D

[Randall Flagg]

You just can't trust anyone these days.:ninja:

[Gris]

Does this seem ligit and a good price?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270468748064&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT

[jhanic]

Yes and yes.

John

[Gris]

Thanks John. I need to get more proactive about asking this kind of stuff before i win it. Always forget to ask because I think it looks good.

[jhanic]

You got a good buy there.

John

[Cloysterpete]

hmmm has ebay got a new policy regarding postage?.

I noticed that every new book posted today (ebay uk this is) has free delivery, have they forced book sellers to give free delivery?, I noticed in the DVD category your only allowed to select the free del option when listing something.

Great for buyers like me, makes it a lot easier to see how much something is without having to total up postage on top.

[Patrick]

Does this seem ligit and a good price?

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270468748064&ssPageName=STRK:MEWNX:IT
Good deal! Congrats, Craig!

[Resident Chris]

hmmm has ebay got a new policy regarding postage?.

I noticed that every new book posted today (ebay uk this is) has free delivery, have they forced book sellers to give free delivery?, I noticed in the DVD category your only allowed to select the free del option when listing something.

Great for buyers like me, makes it a lot easier to see how much something is without having to total up postage on top.


In Germany is it the same. You musst now sell your Books and DVDs with free Delivery.

[Rusher]

I'd be interested to know how this 1980's signature got into a copy of JAS.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-Autograph-Signed-1st-Edition-RARE-Book_W0QQitemZ260493815483QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item3ca6a42ebb

Hey Hutch, I asked him that very question...This is what I asked and his response:

Hi, Im wondering where you got the book signed at ? Im curious because the signature shown is a signature of his from the 80's. His signature has not looked like that for many years. Thanks so much

and his reply ( which didn't answer my question...lol ) I copied and pasted his exact reply, so he obviously can't write very well either

"that how he signed the book, please look at our website www.neautograph.com , we have awesome autographed collectible, you would me interested in"

[lophophoras]

"A BABY CHUE ON IT ALL UP AND DOWN" - quote from seller.

http://cgi.ebay.com/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-BOOK-GREEN-MILE-VERY-RARE-LOOK_W0QQitemZ180423371576QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item2a02122b38

What do you guys think?

[jhanic]

:P

John

[Chooch]

"A BABY CHUE ON IT ALL UP AND DOWN" - quote from seller.

http://cgi.ebay.com/STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-BOOK-GREEN-MILE-VERY-RARE-LOOK_W0QQitemZ180423371576QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_De faultDomain_0?hash=item2a02122b38

What do you guys think?


:lol: LMAO :lol:

[Rahfa]

I'm not convinced...even though it looks good, something doesn't click with me...plus I would trust any COA a whole lot less than I would trust a zero feedback...haha...

[possum]

Rusher and Hutch: I took a look at the www.neatograph site. It is remarkable. They even have a movie poster signed by Biggie Smalls for the film the Nortorious B.I.G.! Remarkable since Smalls was murdered in March 1997 and the film project wasn't even initiated until 2003!

By the way, Paladin Rare Books is advertising some King material. Check it out at: http://www.bonanzle.com/booths/Paladin_Rare_Books

[Rusher]

Rusher and Hutch: I took a look at the www.neatograph site. It is remarkable. They even have a movie poster signed by Biggie Smalls for the film the Nortorious B.I.G.! Remarkable since Smalls was murdered in March 1997 and the film project wasn't even initiated until 2003!

By the way, Paladin Rare Books is advertising some King material. Check it out at: http://www.bonanzle.com/booths/Paladin_Rare_Books

LOL !!! Its amazing how many people blatantly get away with stuff like this

as for Bonanzle...its a great alternative to ebay and WAYYYYY cheaper to do business, but unfortunately they just don't have the traffic yet that ebay does.

[Randall Flagg]

I think the correct URL is:
http://neautograph.com/

Poster (http://neautograph.com/inc/sdetail/4305)

[possum]

Thanks for the correction on the URL. I would be interested in opinions on Paladin's King material.

[Randall Flagg]

I think it is interesting that The Dead Zone, and Firestarter were both signed 8/11/80

http://img263.imageshack.us/img263/5764/presentation1cx.jpg

[Rahfa]

Both pretty clear fakes...

[Tito_Villa]

How can you tell apart from the dates?

[Rahfa]

Well, the dates are a big part of it...since the signatures don't look anything like sigs from that same time period...plus the 'g' looks terrible. Plus, the dates don't look right. So bad all the way around.

[gsvec]

As a point of reference, here's a good SK sig from 1980. Besides the 'g' in King that Rahfa mentioned, the K looks wrong, too.

http://i37.photobucket.com/albums/e73/gsvec/Stephen%20King%20Collection/C%20-%20SK%20Proofs%20and%20ARCs/Dead_Zone_ARC_Sig.jpg

[Tito_Villa]

Thanks for that. im always wary of flat signed books which is why i prefer signed limiteds. though i have bought 2 flat signed books of Ceri in the past!

[gsvec]

And Ceri is in no way questionable! :couple:

[johnsmith87]

Blatant fake:
http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-Dreamcatcher-Hard-back-signed-copy_W0QQitemZ260500267978QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Fi ction_Books?hash=item3ca706a3ca#ht_500wt_1182

[Randall Flagg]

Yes. Pretty bad. Thanks.

[Calla_Wolf]

And Ceri is in no way questionable! :couple:

:huglove:

...no fakes here...

...but am I reeeeeally "in no way questionable" ? :excited:

Bet my wife would have something to say 'bout that

[Calla_Wolf]

hmmm has ebay got a new policy regarding postage?.

I noticed that every new book posted today (ebay uk this is) has free delivery, have they forced book sellers to give free delivery?, I noticed in the DVD category your only allowed to select the free del option when listing something.

Great for buyers like me, makes it a lot easier to see how much something is without having to total up postage on top.

Yes...thankfully I don't sell much these days. Now that Ebay forces sellers to equate shipping a worthless paperback with a £200 limited edition...NOT going to rant here, 'cept to say "it sucks"

[Cloysterpete]

Sellers seem to have got around it already, they select the 'courier' option and then specify how much the service costs in the item description. For expensive books I would guess a courier service would be a better bet than Royal Mail which is all temp workers on min-wage to cope with the strike action by the regulars.

[gsvec]

And Ceri is in no way questionable! :couple:

:huglove:

...no fakes here...

...but am I reeeeeally "in no way questionable" ? :excited:

Bet my wife would have something to say 'bout that
Apparently, I should've been more precise in my statement. Allow me to rephrase: And Ceri is in no way questionable when it comes to authentic SK signatures! :couple:

[ChristineB]

Anyone up for a $3000 signed BCE of the Stand? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350263295710&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123

This one blew me away, I mean my goodness.:panic:

The sig looks authentic to me but I am in no way even close to an expert.

[gsvec]

Anyone up for a $3000 signed BCE of the Stand? http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=350263295710&ssPageName=ADME:X:RTQ:US:1123

This one blew me away, I mean my goodness.:panic:

The sig looks authentic to me but I am in no way even close to an expert.
Yeah, definitely a BCE no matter what the seller says. If you look at the picture of the back cover, you can clearly see the word Edition (aka BOOK CLUB Edition) at the bottom of the front dust jacket flap. Plus there's no price on the jacket, either, in the 2nd pic. The seller's trying to get away with not including a full pic of the DJ flaps and luring people into believing it's a 1st/1st. :pullhair: I think I'll report it.

On the other hand, I think the sig's good.

[ChristineB]

Yeah, definitely a BCE no matter what the seller says. If you look at the picture of the back cover, you can clearly see the word Edition (aka BOOK CLUB Edition) at the bottom of the front dust jacket flap. Plus there's no price on the jacket, either, in the 2nd pic. The seller's trying to get away with not including a full pic of the DJ flaps and luring people into believing it's a 1st/1st. :pullhair: I think I'll report it.

On the other hand, I think the sig's good.

He even states it's quater cloth boards in the decription but you can plainly see in the pic's it isn't.

I told him that it is a BCE and the answer I got back was: OK. I didn't tell him it isn't worth 3000 though, was trying to be civil.

[gsvec]

The part that irritates me most is that he KNOWS it's a BCE since it says it verbatim on the DJ flap. Quite simply, a liar.

[gsvec]

Decided to give him a chance before I report it. Here's the question I sent - we shall see!

Hi! Hoping you can answer a few questions about this book. Does it say FIRST EDITION on the copyright page? Is there a code on the inner margin on page 823?

[e_taylor]

I like this part in his description too:


Also, this book will absolutely never be produced again because this is the original book before the editors added and deleted certain parts that king agreed with doing so.

So apparently 1st editions are actually manuscripts after all!

[ChristineB]

I like this part in his description too:


Also, this book will absolutely never be produced again because this is the original book before the editors added and deleted certain parts that king agreed with doing so.

So apparently 1st editions are actually manuscripts after all!

hehe, the part I really love about this is he is saying this is the orginal book, when in reality it is the cut version and the orginal is closer to the uncut version. Ebayers never cease to amaze me.

[gsvec]

Here's his reply to me

the code is U1. still checking for the 1st questions answer
And my reply back

If the code's U1 and it doesn't say FIRST EDITION, it's definitely not one. Also, it apears that at the bottom of the front dust jacket flap it states that it's a Book Club edition (in your picture #7) which is also indicated by the lack of a price on the top of the front dust jacket flap (your picture #2). The spine on a first edition is also black which according to the pictures, yours is not. You might want to update your listing. The signature looks good, though!

[ChristineB]

I didn't know BCEs had print codes in them, you learn something new everyday.

This could be trade print with a BCE DJ. *shrug*

[gsvec]

Could be. I remember reading somewhere (probably on a thread here) about how to interpret what the codes stood for, but I don't remember it now. :lol:

[Brice]

I forget where he posted it, but Jerome can help you with that, Gretchen. :)

[Randall Flagg]

I bumped the thread. It is right here in Calvin's Corner.:dance:

[Darkmaniscoming]

Hello old mate, you have been unleashed again???

LOL





hmmm has ebay got a new policy regarding postage?.

I noticed that every new book posted today (ebay uk this is) has free delivery, have they forced book sellers to give free delivery?, I noticed in the DVD category your only allowed to select the free del option when listing something.

Great for buyers like me, makes it a lot easier to see how much something is without having to total up postage on top.

Yes...thankfully I don't sell much these days. Now that Ebay forces sellers to equate shipping a worthless paperback with a £200 limited edition...NOT going to rant here, 'cept to say "it sucks"

[ChristineB]

Here's his reply to me

the code is U1. still checking for the 1st questions answer
And my reply back

If the code's U1 and it doesn't say FIRST EDITION, it's definitely not one. Also, it apears that at the bottom of the front dust jacket flap it states that it's a Book Club edition (in your picture #7) which is also indicated by the lack of a price on the top of the front dust jacket flap (your picture #2). The spine on a first edition is also black which according to the pictures, yours is not. You might want to update your listing. The signature looks good, though!

Has he replied back to you yet?

Looks like he relisted it at $2000, what a joke. He did change some of the wording in the listing, but does not mention it is a BCE still. :rolleyes: http://cgi.ebay.com/STEPHEN-KING-The-Stand-SIGNED-HARDCOVER-DOUBLEDAY_W0QQitemZ350263295710QQcmdZViewItemQQptZ Antiquarian_Collectible?hash=item518d51bede

[gsvec]

I did get a reply -

thank you, i did update it. i appreciate your time.
Which he did. Sorta. :rolleyes:

[divemaster]

I had a bid on a S/L The Stand that was listed up until yesterday. It wasn't a very high bid compared to the value of the book (my watch list was full and having a bid in allows me to track the auction).

Last night I got the following message from eBay:


eBay sent this message to __________ (divemaster13).
Your registered name is included to show this message originated from eBay. Learn more.
MC015 Important Message from eBay Loss Prevention Department

Hello divemaster13 (divemaster13@earthlink.net),

We're writing to let you know that the listing for the following item you bid on has been removed:

180426866832 - STEPHEN KING'S THE STAND LIMITED EDITION RARE #361

We strongly recommend that you do not complete this purchase. Purchases of items listed on eBay but then completed outside of eBay are extremely risky. They are not covered by eBay buyer protection programs and are highly susceptible to fraud.

Was someone else on here following the auction as well? Did someone have reason to report it? Is there a muddled history for #361 (stolen, perhaps?)

I'm basically just curious as to why the listing was nixed by eBay. It wasn't like I was actually going to try to buy the book.

[ChristineB]

Divemaster:

Was that the one that the main picture was of the mailer it came in?

If so I was watching it, read the description, look fine to me, last I saw it was up to $810 but I don't see it in my watched list anymore. No idea what happened to it.

[divemaster]

Yeah, that was the one. My bid was for $800 (again, just for tracking purposes). I'm not sure who else was bidding nor do I remember how many bids had been placed so far. Weird.

[ChristineB]

I don't know about you guys but the way this person lists his books just bugs me.

He persistantly calls BCEs first editions. Does this bug other people too or is it just me?

http://shop.ebay.com/disneynut2/m.html?_nkw=stephen+king&_sacat=0&_trksid=p3911.m270.l1311&_odkw=&_osacat=0

From what I can tell he calls the actual 1/1 "True" firsts and the BCEs he just leaves out the "true".

[Brice]

I'm just curious how he distinguishes between a first edition BCE and a second, etc... edition BCE. Is there a distinction at all? :unsure:

[ChristineB]

That's the main problem with BCEs you can't tell what printing they are, not easily anyway.

And that is why it bothers me so much he consistanly calls BCE 1st editions, since they aren't 1st editions they are book club editions.:pullhair:

[Brice]

I think...and this of course is just a theory, but I think he may just be a lying bitch.

[Patrick]

The intent to deceive unwitting buyers seems quite clear. I agree with Brice's assessment.

[Calla_Wolf]

How's this for an elaborate hoax:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=270479745920&ssPageName=ADME:B:ONA:US:1123

Even I was bidding on it...until I took a CLOSE look at the signatures. Can't really comment on the Palladini sig, but King's sig SUCKS

[Randall Flagg]

I agree, a fake. Ruined a good flyer.

[frik]

How's this for an elaborate hoax:

King's sig SUCKS

It would have fooled me....:(

sk

[Calla_Wolf]

How's this for an elaborate hoax:

King's sig SUCKS

It would have fooled me....:(

sk

It fooled me too...mainly because I already have one and I couldn't conceive of anyone ruining a copy of this (I think it's a great illustration)....I think I'm getting lazy in my old age

But when you actually examine the signatures...a cursory comparison is more than enough...

Ugh

[Rahfa]

I agree, a fake. Ruined a good flyer.

Yup...it actually had me fooled until I enlarged it...then even the Pallindini didn't look quite right.

[ChristineB]

Is there still somewhere like skfakes that has posted pics of his sigs over the years?

Loved that site.

[Hutch]

Shortly after it was listed I gave it a quick look ... didn't even enlarge it and wondered why someone tried to fake one of those




How's this for an elaborate hoax:

King's sig SUCKS

It would have fooled me....:(

sk

It fooled me too...mainly because I already have one and I couldn't conceive of anyone ruining a copy of this (I think it's a great illustration)....I think I'm getting lazy in my old age

But when you actually examine the signatures...a cursory comparison is more than enough...

Ugh

[ChristineB]

What do you guys think of this sig?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-SIGNED-1st-THE-SHINING-Book-COA_W0QQitemZ380175438444QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAntiqu arian_Collectible?hash=item588438d26c

[jhanic]

Christine, anything offered by flatsigned is suspect. I would not bid on anything they offer even if it seems a good price. (In my opinion, the signature is a fake.)

John

[Randall Flagg]

I think the signature is a good fake of a current King signature.

[gsvec]

Christine, anything offered by flatsigned is suspect. I would not bid on anything they offer even if it seems a good price. (In my opinion, the signature is a fake.)

John

:thumbsup:

[Rahfa]

What do you guys think of this sig?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-SIGNED-1st-THE-SHINING-Book-COA_W0QQitemZ380175438444QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAntiqu arian_Collectible?hash=item588438d26c

I think it's real...but don't trust auctions that end with such skewed prices like his tend to do...

[Patrick]

But it has Flatsigned's COA sticker adhered to the signed page. That means it has to be real!







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[e_taylor]

What do you guys think of this sig?

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-SIGNED-1st-THE-SHINING-Book-COA_W0QQitemZ380175438444QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAntiqu arian_Collectible?hash=item588438d26c

I think it's real...but don't trust auctions that end with such skewed prices like his tend to do...

The other problem with flatsigned is that the one in the picture might be real, but the one you receive probably won't be.

[Rahfa]

Haha....yeah, maybe...I dunno, though. Personally, I've never had a reason to doubt the authenticity of what he sells, and I've actually sold him stuff in the past - but I don't trust his auctions.

[ChristineB]

Thanks for the info guys, it does suprise me how low he tends to start his auctions on signed 1/1 books.

It is interesting you mentioned possiblly not getting the book in the auction, since there is a auction of his with a Carrie 1/1 that he has 2 different duskjackets pictured in the auction. That sent up a major red flag for me.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Here is what I think:

He has a large staff spread over the US with several Ebay accounts bidding on the auctions. There job isn't to win it, but to raise the price.

Ebay doesn't consider this to be Shill bidding because the bidder accounts are real and legit and from time to time to make it all look real, they win the auction. But keep a close watch and you will see the same book appear for sale again within a couple weeks

On one occasion I won a signed limited from his Ebay auction worth $900 and got it for $400. His response to me was "congratulations on a great win, boy my people really messed up on this one" "Hopefully you will take your good fortunes and buy something else from me"

I've sold to to Tim. Don't get me wrong, he is great to deal with in that area. But his auction end prices, for the most part, always raises a red flag.

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[ChristineB]

On one occasion I won a signed limited from his Ebay auction worth $900 and got it for $400. His response to me was "congratulations on a great win, boy my people really messed up on this one" "Hopefully you will take your good fortunes and buy something else from me"

Wow that is a telling statement. It seems he has a store right here in Nashville. I need to go check it out sometime and see what the prices are on items there.

[Calla_Wolf]

What a stupid, stupid buyer (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Stephen-King-Dreamcatcher-Hard-back-signed-copy_W0QQitemZ260500267978QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Fi ction_Books?hash=item3ca706a3ca)

[Rahfa]

What a stupid, stupid buyer (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Stephen-King-Dreamcatcher-Hard-back-signed-copy_W0QQitemZ260500267978QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Fi ction_Books?hash=item3ca706a3ca)

What can you even say about that? I really want to know what was going on in the minds of the people bidding against him?

[ChristineB]

What a stupid, stupid buyer (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Stephen-King-Dreamcatcher-Hard-back-signed-copy_W0QQitemZ260500267978QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Fi ction_Books?hash=item3ca706a3ca)

I have that one on my watch list, and it just blows me away completely.

I mean come on, even I can see that isn't any where near King's sig.

Stupid is definitely a word for it.

Have to wonder if it isn't a scam bidder (sorry don't remember the word for this).

[jhanic]

The winning buyer (so far) has only one feedback.

John

[tippy4]

I think the word you are looking for is shill bidder.

There were at least four different bidders.

[Brice]

I wish all fakes were at least that bad. The buyer is a dumbass AND must have never seen SK's sig in their life. :wtf:

[Calla_Wolf]

...and Another (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Dolores-Claiborne-by-STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-First-Ed_W0QQitemZ380174970396QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Fict ion_Books?hash=item588431ae1c)...

And THESE (Click Here) (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SIGNED-Stephen-King-LISEYS-STORY-h-c-1st-ed_W0QQitemZ250525373165QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Fict ion_Books?hash=item3a5479d2ed) are REALLY starting to get on my nips.

Next...(just like old times, eh?)...the sig on the book and the sig in the COA in THIS auction (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Stephen-King-Signed-Auto-Book-Just-After-Sunset-JSA_W0QQitemZ230396689595QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item35a4b67cbb) are different...so god know's what you'd get if you won

This one I'd want to double check with the experts - Click Here (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/STEPHEN-KING-TRUE-FIRST-CARRIE-IN-1ST-DJ-SIGNED_W0QQitemZ140357746400QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAnt iquarian_Collectible?hash=item20adf93ee0) - though the book is far more interesting than the signature IMO and still at a very good price

And finally, I am sick of the sight of THIS (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Dark-Tower-V-Wolves-of-the-Calla-by-Stephen-King-SIGNED_W0QQitemZ230395781780QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_ Fiction_Books?hash=item35a4a8a294).




*Shameless Plug*
This is pretty nice...for a non King item (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Clive-Barker-Books-of-Blood-SIGNED-LIMITED-ARTWORK_W0QQitemZ290368079706QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAn tiquarian_Books_UK?hash=item439b49475a)

[Room 217 Caretaker]

...and Another (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Dolores-Claiborne-by-STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-First-Ed_W0QQitemZ380174970396QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Fict ion_Books?hash=item588431ae1c)...

And THESE (Click Here) (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SIGNED-Stephen-King-LISEYS-STORY-h-c-1st-ed_W0QQitemZ250525373165QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Fict ion_Books?hash=item3a5479d2ed) are REALLY starting to get on my nips.

Next...(just like old times, eh?)...the sig on the book and the sig in the COA in THIS auction (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Stephen-King-Signed-Auto-Book-Just-After-Sunset-JSA_W0QQitemZ230396689595QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item35a4b67cbb) are different...so god know's what you'd get if you won

This one I'd want to double check with the experts - Click Here (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/STEPHEN-KING-TRUE-FIRST-CARRIE-IN-1ST-DJ-SIGNED_W0QQitemZ140357746400QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAnt iquarian_Collectible?hash=item20adf93ee0) - though the book is far more interesting than the signature IMO and still at a very good price

And finally, I am sick of the sight of THIS (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Dark-Tower-V-Wolves-of-the-Calla-by-Stephen-King-SIGNED_W0QQitemZ230395781780QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_ Fiction_Books?hash=item35a4a8a294).




*Shameless Plug*
This is pretty nice...for a non King item (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Clive-Barker-Books-of-Blood-SIGNED-LIMITED-ARTWORK_W0QQitemZ290368079706QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAn tiquarian_Books_UK?hash=item439b49475a)

Good catch on the COA.

I like the Carrie but not the signature. I'm not saying it's fake but I don't like the line from the P. Looks like an after thought.

The others are just plain fake. We always seem to see fakes show up this time of the year. These sellers are hoping for a quick sell to someone looking for a Christmas present.

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[Randall Flagg]

All rubbish.

[Calla_Wolf]

These sellers are hoping for a quick sell to someone looking for a Christmas present.


That's why I thought I might revisit my old SKFakes days for a while
:shoot: :shoot: :shoot:

[Calla_Wolf]

...and Another (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Dolores-Claiborne-by-STEPHEN-KING-SIGNED-First-Ed_W0QQitemZ380174970396QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Fict ion_Books?hash=item588431ae1c)...

And THESE (Click Here) (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/SIGNED-Stephen-King-LISEYS-STORY-h-c-1st-ed_W0QQitemZ250525373165QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_Fict ion_Books?hash=item3a5479d2ed) are REALLY starting to get on my nips.

Next...(just like old times, eh?)...the sig on the book and the sig in the COA in THIS auction (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Stephen-King-Signed-Auto-Book-Just-After-Sunset-JSA_W0QQitemZ230396689595QQcmdZViewItemQQptZLH_Def aultDomain_0?hash=item35a4b67cbb) are different...so god know's what you'd get if you won

This one I'd want to double check with the experts - Click Here (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/STEPHEN-KING-TRUE-FIRST-CARRIE-IN-1ST-DJ-SIGNED_W0QQitemZ140357746400QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAnt iquarian_Collectible?hash=item20adf93ee0) - though the book is far more interesting than the signature IMO and still at a very good price

And finally, I am sick of the sight of THIS (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Dark-Tower-V-Wolves-of-the-Calla-by-Stephen-King-SIGNED_W0QQitemZ230395781780QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_ Fiction_Books?hash=item35a4a8a294).




*Shameless Plug*
This is pretty nice...for a non King item (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Clive-Barker-Books-of-Blood-SIGNED-LIMITED-ARTWORK_W0QQitemZ290368079706QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAn tiquarian_Books_UK?hash=item439b49475a)

Not a fake...but a bull*hit price (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/Stephen-King-IT-Signed-First-Edition-1st-Rare-dj-HC_W0QQitemZ330375701513QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAntiqua rian_Collectible?hash=item4cebed2409)

[Calla_Wolf]

Highly Questionable (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CUJO-by-Stephen-King-1981-1st-Edition-SIGNED_W0QQitemZ170405105620QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_ Fiction_Books?hash=item27acef8fd4)

Looks traced to me - very shaky

[jhanic]

Agreed. It doesn't look smooth at all.

John

[lophophoras]

Highly Questionable (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/CUJO-by-Stephen-King-1981-1st-Edition-SIGNED_W0QQitemZ170405105620QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_ Fiction_Books?hash=item27acef8fd4)

Looks traced to me - very shaky

Yeah, it does look shaky. The person doing the tracing hesitated quite a bit.

[SkippyD023]

I hope this is the right place for this. It is not an e-bay auction, I actually have the book but just trying to determine if this is a authentic Straub signature. Any help would be appreciated.

http://i761.photobucket.com/albums/xx254/SkippyD023/straub001.jpg

[carlosdetweiller]

I hope this is the right place for this. It is not an e-bay auction, I actually have the book but just trying to determine if this is a authentic Straub signature. Any help would be appreciated.



Yes, it looks just fine to me. I've got a large Straub collection with many inscriptions and signatures. This one looks just fine and raises no red flags with me.

[Room 217 Caretaker]

I don't see a problem with it. I have a few in my collection. His sig sort of bounces around a little but I wouldn't hesitate on the one your holding.

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[Calla_Wolf]

Another Stinker (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/THE-SHINING-by-Stephen-King-1977-SIGNED-DUST-JACKET_W0QQitemZ180431126536QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_ Fiction_Books?hash=item2a02888008)

[Room 217 Caretaker]

Another Stinker (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/THE-SHINING-by-Stephen-King-1977-SIGNED-DUST-JACKET_W0QQitemZ180431126536QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_ Fiction_Books?hash=item2a02888008)

:o Several of his auctions are beyond suspect.

:orely: I'm sure he has a good explanation but why use Ebay.UK when his address is South Carolina? Did we already run him off the US Ebay and he's hoping to dump them in the UK?

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[Hutch]

Outwardly the signature looks decent. However, I truly believe it to be a fake for the following reason.

The signature is circa 1977 and the book is a full size BCE. The full size BCE editions were not in print until much later. The tell points that scream full size BCE are the dimensions and the the dj background color change at the spine.

I've viewed a few of this sellers other books. His signed Firestarter is a BCE and not a first as stated. (incorrect publishers address on the cp page)

Signed CUJO is a BCE sig is suspect.

My gut tells me somewhere in the line of ownership a talented forgered once owned these books.


Another Stinker (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/THE-SHINING-by-Stephen-King-1977-SIGNED-DUST-JACKET_W0QQitemZ180431126536QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_ Fiction_Books?hash=item2a02888008)

[Darkmaniscoming]

:orely:



Outwardly the signature looks decent. However, I truly believe it to be a fake for the following reason.

The signature is circa 1977 and the book is a full size BCE. The full size BCE editions were not in print until much later. The tell points that scream full size BCE are the dimensions and the the dj background color change at the spine.

I've viewed a few of this sellers other books. His signed Firestarter is a BCE and not a first as stated. (incorrect publishers address on the cp page)

Signed CUJO is a BCE sig is suspect.

My gut tells me somewhere in the line of ownership a talented forgered once owned these books.


Another Stinker (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/THE-SHINING-by-Stephen-King-1977-SIGNED-DUST-JACKET_W0QQitemZ180431126536QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_ Fiction_Books?hash=item2a02888008)

[Sam]

Another Stinker (http://cgi.ebay.co.uk/THE-SHINING-by-Stephen-King-1977-SIGNED-DUST-JACKET_W0QQitemZ180431126536QQcmdZViewItemQQptZUS_ Fiction_Books?hash=item2a02888008)

:o Several of his auctions are beyond suspect.

:orely: I'm sure he has a good explanation but why use Ebay.UK when his address is South Carolina? Did we already run him off the US Ebay and he's hoping to dump them in the UK?

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

His stuff is on the US ebay as well. I think the UK link is because of Calla Wolf, not the seller. Oddly enough, this makes the second forged book seller within an hour's drive of me. That would make some sense if I lived in NYC or some large place like that, but Clover and Fort Mill are large enough to have a traffic light of two but that's pretty much it.

Very odd.

[carlosdetweiller]

Oddly enough, this makes the second forged book seller within an hour's drive of me.



Go kick their ass. Say it is from all of us.

[Sam]

LOL:thumbsup:

[Patrick]

Oddly enough, this makes the second forged book seller within an hour's drive of me.
Go kick their ass. Say it is from all of us.
LOL:thumbsup:
:rofl: Excellent.

[Brice]

:lol:

I think separate ass kickings from each of us are in order...with Sam of course having the pleasure of delivering them.

[ChristineB]

Ok may not be BS but I have to wonder what is up with it since it is still for sale on ebay. I may be shooting myself in the foot by posting this if it is a real 1/1, but something just smells fishy here. Maybe it's just me.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-THE-STAND-TRUE-1978-1ST-DJ-NICE-COPY_W0QQitemZ360206008553QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAntiq uarian_Collectible?hash=item53ddf380e9

[Rahfa]

It's probably real...looking at the guy's feedback (10K! and it's all perfect?) tells me he sells a lot in bulk and is too lazy to post an image of the book...it's a pretty clear cut description. I'm too lazy to doublecheck that's the right price on the d/j, though.

That $149 isn't a bargain price...maybe a little, but anywhere from $150-$200 about right for a good copy of that title.

[e_taylor]

Ok may not be BS but I have to wonder what is up with it since it is still for sale on ebay. I may be shooting myself in the foot by posting this if it is a real 1/1, but something just smells fishy here. Maybe it's just me.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-THE-STAND-TRUE-1978-1ST-DJ-NICE-COPY_W0QQitemZ360206008553QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAntiq uarian_Collectible?hash=item53ddf380e9

That seller is legit. The book will be a 1st, but the jacket might not be. Theres definitely a typo somewhere as the price should be $12.95 and he has $12.50 listed.... I'd confirm that part first. But at the end of the day $150 isn't a phenomenal deal anyways.

[Darkmaniscoming]

agreed....
this seller is involved with a bunch of universities and gets donations of 100's of books weekly...ask him for pictures though...

Eric you goin tomorrow???




Ok may not be BS but I have to wonder what is up with it since it is still for sale on ebay. I may be shooting myself in the foot by posting this if it is a real 1/1, but something just smells fishy here. Maybe it's just me.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-THE-STAND-TRUE-1978-1ST-DJ-NICE-COPY_W0QQitemZ360206008553QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAntiq uarian_Collectible?hash=item53ddf380e9

That seller is legit. The book will be a 1st, but the jacket might not be. Theres definitely a typo somewhere as the price should be $12.95 and he has $12.50 listed.... I'd confirm that part first. But at the end of the day $150 isn't a phenomenal deal anyways.

[e_taylor]

Eric you goin tomorrow???

Nope. :cry:

[Hutch]

Eric you goin tomorrow???

If you're referring to the MN event ...
Eric may not be but I know I am and so is Mike Pasuik

[gsvec]

Eric you goin tomorrow???

If you're referring to the MN event ...
Eric may not be but I know I am and so is Mike Pasuik
Me, too - let's meet up! :D

[Darkmaniscoming]

Actually I'm living a different calendar apparently....
I meant thursday Toronto...?
ERIC REALLY????? HOW COME WHY WHAT HUH????
Hutch you comin to TRONT???





Eric you goin tomorrow???

If you're referring to the MN event ...
Eric may not be but I know I am and so is Mike Pasuik

[ChristineB]

Add the magic needle in the book cover listing is back... he dropped it to $150 now. :rolleyes:

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=140360763316&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:VRI

[SkippyD023]

Ok may not be BS but I have to wonder what is up with it since it is still for sale on ebay. I may be shooting myself in the foot by posting this if it is a real 1/1, but something just smells fishy here. Maybe it's just me.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-THE-STAND-TRUE-1978-1ST-DJ-NICE-COPY_W0QQitemZ360206008553QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAntiq uarian_Collectible?hash=item53ddf380e9

That seller is legit. The book will be a 1st, but the jacket might not be. Theres definitely a typo somewhere as the price should be $12.95 and he has $12.50 listed.... I'd confirm that part first. But at the end of the day $150 isn't a phenomenal deal anyways.


I had asked him to confirm the price on the DJ for me and he said it was $12.50. I also asked if he could send me a few pictures and he could not because his scanner was broken but he could fax me a copy of the copyright page.

[Calla_Wolf]

Ok may not be BS but I have to wonder what is up with it since it is still for sale on ebay. I may be shooting myself in the foot by posting this if it is a real 1/1, but something just smells fishy here. Maybe it's just me.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-THE-STAND-TRUE-1978-1ST-DJ-NICE-COPY_W0QQitemZ360206008553QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAntiq uarian_Collectible?hash=item53ddf380e9

That seller is legit. The book will be a 1st, but the jacket might not be. Theres definitely a typo somewhere as the price should be $12.95 and he has $12.50 listed.... I'd confirm that part first. But at the end of the day $150 isn't a phenomenal deal anyways.


I had asked him to confirm the price on the DJ for me and he said it was $12.50. I also asked if he could send me a few pictures and he could not because his scanner was broken but he could fax me a copy of the copyright page.

Ask for a fax copy of the DJ. It's pretty obvious to me that the DJ is iffy...and that he genuinely believes the price should be $12.50. Bit of a bell-end isn't he :)

[ChristineB]

Ok may not be BS but I have to wonder what is up with it since it is still for sale on ebay. I may be shooting myself in the foot by posting this if it is a real 1/1, but something just smells fishy here. Maybe it's just me.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-THE-STAND-TRUE-1978-1ST-DJ-NICE-COPY_W0QQitemZ360206008553QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAntiq uarian_Collectible?hash=item53ddf380e9

That seller is legit. The book will be a 1st, but the jacket might not be. Theres definitely a typo somewhere as the price should be $12.95 and he has $12.50 listed.... I'd confirm that part first. But at the end of the day $150 isn't a phenomenal deal anyways.


I had asked him to confirm the price on the DJ for me and he said it was $12.50. I also asked if he could send me a few pictures and he could not because his scanner was broken but he could fax me a copy of the copyright page.

What amazes me is someone without a digital camera in this world, especially that sells books. I acutally debated pulling out one of my old digitals and sending it to him. :) He wrote to me he didn't have a scanner at the moment and I almost fell out of my seat thinking of a carrie 1/1 being slapped on a scanner to take pictures of it. *shudders*

[jhanic]

Christine, I don't have a camera myself (I have a condition in which I shake rather badly and I can't take decent pictures) but I DO have a scanner that works. I don't know why this seller can't get a camera--they're not that expensive. I just wish I could use one.

John

[ChristineB]

John,

Hadn't thought of that, sorry to hear it.

[Rahfa]

Ok may not be BS but I have to wonder what is up with it since it is still for sale on ebay. I may be shooting myself in the foot by posting this if it is a real 1/1, but something just smells fishy here. Maybe it's just me.

http://cgi.ebay.com/Stephen-King-THE-STAND-TRUE-1978-1ST-DJ-NICE-COPY_W0QQitemZ360206008553QQcmdZViewItemQQptZAntiq uarian_Collectible?hash=item53ddf380e9

That seller is legit. The book will be a 1st, but the jacket might not be. Theres definitely a typo somewhere as the price should be $12.95 and he has $12.50 listed.... I'd confirm that part first. But at the end of the day $150 isn't a phenomenal deal anyways.

I had asked him to confirm the price on the DJ for me and he said it was $12.50. I also asked if he could send me a few pictures and he could not because his scanner was broken but he could fax me a copy of the copyright page.

Ask for a fax copy of the DJ. It's pretty obvious to me that the DJ is iffy...and that he genuinely believes the price should be $12.50. Bit of a bell-end isn't he :)

I wonder if he's even got his hands on the book? I mean, there is no $12.50 d/j, but a later edition obviously didn't sell for cheaper...he's probably just assuming he's right, without actually looking...kind of odd, though.

Maybe this is a variant that no one's ever heard of...like the Salem's Lot 1st/1st...could be...haha...

[Randall Flagg]

John, a seller can always use a tripod, or even set the camera on a table, and use the timer function. That's what I do.

[jhanic]

I understand that, but I'm still afraid I'd screw things up too badly. I haven't given up on it completely, though.

John

[ChristineB]

John, a seller can always use a tripod, or even set the camera on a table, and use the timer function. That's what I do.

Then there is always getting a friend/domestic accomplice to do it, there are ways. I understand your reservations John, but this guy is posting $150 books on ebay for profit. Just my thinking.

I also asked him about the DJ price today and this was his answer:

Hello--It was when I checked it yesterday. I had to fly to the East Coast (I live in California) yesterday, but I doubt the price is any different than when I last checked it! Take care. --Dan S.

So I responded to him saying the 1/1 DJ should be priced at 12.95. We'll see what goes down.

[Mr. Rabbit Trick]

I understand that, but I'm still afraid I'd screw things up too badly. I haven't given up on it completely, though.

John

You can't screw things up with a digital camera John. That's the beauty of them. You can take a hundred photos, or just one. It doesn't cost you anything. If the picture is crap, delete it, and take another.

[jhanic]

But I get so frustrated!

John

[Calla_Wolf]

But I get so frustrated!

John

As a photographer (check out the link in my sig), I promise you there are ALWAYS tricks. If you wanna chat about it, drop me a PM. :thumbsup:

[Eric719691]

What does everyone think of these signatures?

http://imagehost.vendio.com/bin/imageserver.x/00000000/altezahuncorp/WolvesCalia1.jpg

[frik]

:nope:

sk

[Sam]

The King signature looks bad and looks like there was a pause in the swoop going through the "t". My money says that sig is fake.

The Wrightson sig looks good though. I had several books signed by Wrightson (Cycle of the Werewolf, The Stand: which I lost when I moved into my current home, and S/L From a Buick 8) and that's what his sig looked like in The Stand. Cycle looks different, but I think that's because of the slick paper used in the book more than anything else

Either way, the book is a waste of time and money. In my opinion.

[jhanic]

The King signature looks traced (and badly, at that.)

John

[Randall Flagg]

Thumbs down on the King signature.

[ChristineB]

Is it the hesitations in the sig that tip you guys off?

If so, Wrightston's is bad too seeing as it had a couple hesitations in the flurish at the end.

[Eric719691]

I did not like either of these sigs when I first saw the listing. Here is the listing of the book.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=390121267826&ssPageName=STRK:MEWAX:IT

[ChristineB]

Ok, I have never seen a 2nd printing of one of Grants books, but I was under the impression they didn't put First Trade Edition on anything but the first print. I guess I was wrong.

[Randall Flagg]

Ok, I have never seen a 2nd printing of one of Grants books, but I was under the impression they didn't put First Trade Edition on anything but the first print. I guess I was wrong.
From the Catalog:
Link (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?t=1101)

Gunslinger, The (DTI) - Trade HC 2nd Ed. Title: The Dark Tower I: The Gunslinger
Author: Stephen King
Artist: Michael Whelan
Publisher: Donald M. Grant
Year: 1984
State: Trade Hardback Second Edition. Issue price $20
Comments: Fully bound in black cloth with illustrated endpapers and pastedowns. One price on dust jacket: $20. Color of lettering on dust jacket is deeper yellow. Print run of 10,000 copies. Copyright page states:
Second Edition

Text and images provided by Randall Flagg (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/member.php?u=50)

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/510/medium/Presentation1.jpg

[e_taylor]

Ok, I have never seen a 2nd printing of one of Grants books, but I was under the impression they didn't put First Trade Edition on anything but the first print. I guess I was wrong.

The "trade" editions of DTV, VI and VII were printed by Scribner.

[ChristineB]

Ok, I have never seen a 2nd printing of one of Grants books, but I was under the impression they didn't put First Trade Edition on anything but the first print. I guess I was wrong.

The "trade" editions of DTV, VI and VII were printed by Scribner.

I must beg to differ on this statement. They were printed in association with Scribner. If you look at the copywrite page Scribner distributed them but Grant published them.

[ChristineB]

Ok, I have never seen a 2nd printing of one of Grants books, but I was under the impression they didn't put First Trade Edition on anything but the first print. I guess I was wrong.
From the Catalog:
Link (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/showthread.php?t=1101)

Gunslinger, The (DTI) - Trade HC 2nd Ed. Title: The Dark Tower I: The Gunslinger
Author: Stephen King
Artist: Michael Whelan
Publisher: Donald M. Grant
Year: 1984
State: Trade Hardback Second Edition. Issue price $20
Comments: Fully bound in black cloth with illustrated endpapers and pastedowns. One price on dust jacket: $20. Color of lettering on dust jacket is deeper yellow. Print run of 10,000 copies. Copyright page states:
Second Edition

Text and images provided by Randall Flagg (http://www.thedarktower.org/palaver/member.php?u=50)

http://www.thedarktower.org/gallery/data/510/medium/Presentation1.jpg

That was kind of my point RF, The Gunslinger reprints were "2nd editions" on the copywrite page however if you look at the copywrite page from this auction the book is a second printing as evidenced by the number line yet still says "First trade edition".

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[Sam]

Technically, it is the second printing of the frist trade edition.

When Grant reprinted The Gunslinger, there were minor changes made to differentiate that printing from the first printing. Those differences made it a different edition. In the case of the book in question, there have been absolutely no changes made and this makes it still the first edition, but a different printing. In this case it's the second printing as indicated by the number line.

[Rahfa]

What book is that in the Ebay listing? "Cycle of the Werewolf?"

[ChristineB]

What book is that in the Ebay listing? "Cycle of the Werewolf?"

It is wolves of the calla

[Room 217 Caretaker]

OK.....maybe I'm being a little picky here. If I am just ignore me but I think this listing is completely wrong and fraudulent. I believe the winner will probably think they will own one of the 1500 signed limited. He clearly went to a signing to get this.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230403549644

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

[ChristineB]

OK.....maybe I'm being a little picky here. If I am just ignore me but I think this listing is completely wrong and fraudulent. I believe the winner will probably think they will own one of the 1500 signed limited. He clearly went to a signing to get this.

http://cgi.ebay.com/ws/eBayISAPI.dll?ViewItem&item=230403549644

Mulleins
Cumberland VA

I would agree with you Ralph. He really should not have noted the 1500 in the auction since this isn't one of those.

And I am sending him a message to that effect.

The interesting thing about this book getting signed is it actually makes this one more limited then the S/L is really, since the only place you could get one signed was at the Atlanta signing and I heard they only had 50 copies of it available. So if all 50 were bought and signed at that signing then they are the most limited editions. Just makes the fact the S/L was not numbered or different in any other way then the collector's edition that much more dissappointing.