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fernandito
09-28-2010, 11:58 AM
Martin Scorsese's IMDB Page (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000217/#director)
Notable films: Goodfellas, Taxi Driver, Raging Bull, Shutter Island, The Departed
http://i699.photobucket.com/albums/vv360/heather1019/board%20pics/BDOAT/MartinScorsese.jpg

Akira Kurosawa's IMDB Page (http://www.imdb.com/name/nm0000041/)
Notable films : Seven Samurai, Yojimbo, The Hidden Fortress, Throne of Blood, Ran, Rashomon, Shadow Warrior
http://minaday.com/movies/wp-content/uploads/2010/03/akira-kurosawa_3.jpg

Reminder : In case of a tie in the polls, the posts below will serve as the final tie breaker so please make sure to clearly indicate whom you're voting for !

Jean
09-28-2010, 12:26 PM
Definitely Kurosawa.

fernandito
09-28-2010, 12:28 PM
Marty for me.

alkanto
09-28-2010, 12:33 PM
Scorsese

Heather19
09-28-2010, 03:27 PM
Marty for me.


Scorsese

Make that 3 :couple:

Still Servant
09-28-2010, 04:57 PM
I tied it up again. This could be another close one.

Mattrick
09-28-2010, 06:08 PM
I put Scorcese up. On a kick from him now. Just watched The Aviator and Taxi Driver...going to watch Raging Bull and Gangs of New York next.

Jean
09-28-2010, 10:50 PM
bears do not like what they see at the moment

turtlex
09-29-2010, 02:46 AM
Had to go with Scorsese.

Brice
09-29-2010, 05:02 AM
Kurosawa

fernandito
09-29-2010, 05:16 AM
Marty for me.


Scorsese

Make that 3 :couple:


I put Scorcese up. On a kick from him now. Just watched The Aviator and Taxi Driver...going to watch Raging Bull and Gangs of New York next.


Had to go with Scorsese.

http://i330.photobucket.com/albums/l416/feverishparade/1246090349470.jpg

Brice
09-29-2010, 05:27 AM
I could maybe have voted Scorcese if he hadn't made that gangster movie that Fernando and Amanda are convinced deluded enough to believe is the best.

Darkthoughts
09-29-2010, 05:29 AM
Kurosawa

fernandito
09-29-2010, 05:31 AM
I could maybe have voted Scorcese if he hadn't made that gangster movie that Fernando and Amanda are convinced deluded enough to believe is the best.

Hey, the back of the box clearly states "The Greatest Mob Movie Ever! -Roger Ebert"


Roger Ebert doesn't lie ! :rofl:

Jean
09-29-2010, 05:37 AM
bears still do not like what they see

Brice
09-29-2010, 05:40 AM
I could maybe have voted Scorcese if he hadn't made that gangster movie that Fernando and Amanda are convinced deluded enough to believe is the best.

Hey, the back of the box clearly states "The Greatest Mob Movie Ever! -Roger Ebert"


Roger Ebert doesn't lie ! :rofl:

Perhaps not, perhaps he's on the good drugs instead.

Actually I love Goodfella's. I just like fuckin' with y'all about it. And if it weren't for The Godfather trilogy I'd say it was the best.

fernandito
09-29-2010, 05:41 AM
I, on the other hand, am ecstatic at what I see ;)

Jean
09-29-2010, 05:41 AM
bears are totally indifferent to gangsters and gangster movies

turtlex
09-29-2010, 05:55 AM
Gosh... how unusual, my choice actually winning ?!??!? :scared:

Jean
09-29-2010, 05:57 AM
how do you mean, unusual? your choice won only five days ago, and my heart is still bleeding

:rose:

turtlex
09-29-2010, 05:59 AM
Guess I'm still dwelling on Spielberg. :cry: :lol:

Jean
09-29-2010, 06:01 AM
yes, darling, I know. Some wounds can never be healed.

turtlex
09-29-2010, 06:01 AM
:grouphug:

Melike
09-29-2010, 09:01 AM
Scorsese.

Mattrick
09-29-2010, 10:28 AM
bears are totally indifferent to gangsters and gangster movies

You should watch The Sopranos :thumbsup:

Jean
09-29-2010, 11:03 AM
"indifferent", I said, not "enthusiastic" http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mishemplushem/Facilitation/bear_tongue.gif

pathoftheturtle
09-29-2010, 11:18 AM
:wtf: Have you folken not seen what Kurosawa did?

I do think that Scorsese is greatest among his peer group, but this is just ridiculous.

Mattrick
09-29-2010, 11:37 AM
"indifferent", I said, not "enthusiastic" http://i91.photobucket.com/albums/k291/mishemplushem/Facilitation/bear_tongue.gif

I know. But Sopranos is about the greatest TV show ever and only about 30% of it is actually about the mob. And if you don't want to watch that...watch Six Feet Under if you haven't. I think bears would love Six Feet Under

fernandito
10-01-2010, 06:53 AM
*Bumpity bump

Seymour_Glass
10-01-2010, 07:05 AM
Scorsese.

fernandito
10-01-2010, 07:10 AM
:thumbsup:

Jean
10-01-2010, 09:07 AM
no, not at this ratio!

some more people who love cinema, come on, one of the three greatest directors of all times needs your help

(yes, I know what is about to be posted right underneath my post. To prevent this, I am expressing myself explicitly: no, I do not mean Scorsese.)

Sam
10-01-2010, 10:27 AM
Scorsese is no where near Kurosawa's level when it comes to directors. If you haven't experienced an Akira Kurosawa film, and it is obvious to me that there are 14 people who have not, you should RUN, do not walk, to amazon or ebay or your local retailer and find one of his films in the movies section, take it straight home, and watch something by the greatest movie director to ever grace this planet.

Kurosawa all the way baby!!!

turtlex
10-01-2010, 10:29 AM
Sam :couple: I love you, my friend - but I have to disagree. I've seen the films of both directors, and went with Marty.

Jean
10-01-2010, 10:45 AM
Sam :couple: I love you, my friend - but I have to disagree. I've seen the films of both directors, and went with Marty. yes, I've noticed, and this is not the first time you go with the wrong guy

What Sam said, except the greatest movie director part. One of the four greatest, though, that's for sure.

turtlex
10-01-2010, 02:25 PM
:huglove: Jean.

Sam
10-05-2010, 06:10 AM
Dear Pam,
I am totally sorry that your moral compass is so badly screwed that it would cause you to vote for Marty over The Emperor. If there is anything I can do to help you get it fixed, please let me know. I suggest you go to Netflix more often. Watch two Yojimbo films (that would be Yojimbo and Sanjuro) and call me in the morning.

Jean
10-05-2010, 06:27 AM
especially Yojimbo

should be in every encyclopedia next to "masterpiece"

turtlex
10-05-2010, 06:54 AM
Dear Pam,
I am totally sorry that your moral compass is so badly screwed that it would cause you to vote for Marty over The Emperor. If there is anything I can do to help you get it fixed, please let me know. I suggest you go to Netflix more often. Watch two Yojimbo films (that would be Yojimbo and Sanjuro) and call me in the morning.

:lol:

I put Netflix right up there with FaceBook... time suck !!

I have yet to find a single moment where I needed something to watch. Between cable, network tv and my ( way too big ) DVD collection, I have plenty to occupy my movie-watching time.

Oh, and I've seen all of the Emperor's films. I like them. They're impressive. I would even go so far as to say that I loved Ran. I just think Marty is a better director and I like his movies more. :P

Jean
10-05-2010, 11:49 AM
can you post in one of the standing threads some analysis? I mean, I see how someone can love some movies more than others, but I fail to understand how Scorsese is a better director than Kurosawa. I just would like to know how you see directing generally, and the two directors in particular (no hurry, of course, but I would really really like to know some time in the future)

turtlex
10-05-2010, 11:53 AM
can you post in one of the standing threads some analysis? I mean, I see how someone can love some movies more than others, but I fail to understand how Scorsese is a better director than Kurosawa. I just would like to know how you see directing generally, and the two directors in particular (no hurry, of course, but I would really really like to know some time in the future)

Sure. Give me some time to get my thoughts together and I'll post something, hopefully understandable. :grouphug:

fernandito
10-05-2010, 11:57 AM
I'm looking forward to reading it as well, Pam. :)

Mattrick
10-05-2010, 01:32 PM
I think Scorcese is a fantastic director. He's pioneer in American Cinema. You've got to look beyond his Mob Movies though, to find great pictures like Taxi Driver, Raging Bull and The Aviator. Kurosawa may be a better director but Scorsese is simply iconic in the Western world. His movies are amazing, if not at least least highly entertaining. He's able to get amazing performances out of his actors, in every movie.

I haven't seen any Kurosawa so I can't compared the two, but Scorsese has made some incredible films. Raging Bull was just...too good.

pathoftheturtle
10-05-2010, 05:05 PM
I agree with all that & furthermore I think his "mob movies" also have some value.

SynysterSaint
10-05-2010, 06:19 PM
Kurosawa.

Sam
10-07-2010, 08:38 AM
I think Scorcese is a fantastic director. He's pioneer in American Cinema. You've got to look beyond his Mob Movies though, to find great pictures like Taxi Driver, Raging Bull and The Aviator. Kurosawa may be a better director but Scorsese is simply iconic in the Western world. His movies are amazing, if not at least least highly entertaining. He's able to get amazing performances out of his actors, in every movie.

I haven't seen any Kurosawa so I can't compared the two, but Scorsese has made some incredible films. Raging Bull was just...too good.

And I think you have hit the nail on it right there (bolding was my idea). You haven't seen any Kurosawa. How can one possibly give an opinion when you have sampled only half of the pool? Forgetting this vote, I would recommend you experience Kurosawa's work. If not for us, then for yourself. I think there are far too many people in the world who have never become aquainted with Akira Kurosawa. For me, he is the ultimate director, demanding perfection not just from himself, but from everyone who dared to work on his film set. He required complete authenticity and nothing less would suffice. Many of his techniques are still being used today, even with modern digital film making. Scorsese has never been a favorite of mine, but I can see and do agree with his impact as a director. His work has become iconic to the western world. Kurosawa's, on the other hand, is iconic throughout the entire globe. More than a few of his films have won numerous accolades and are known as some of the best the world has seen. Why, he gave us the original Man With No Name. If you haven't seen one of his films, the you owe it to yourself to find one and watch it. Get one of his better known films to start with, I promise you will not be disappointed.

turtlex
10-07-2010, 09:50 AM
Mattrick - I'm going to have to agree with Sam on this one. He states what I am thinking, very well.


How can one possibly give an opinion when you have sampled only half of the pool?

Personally, I won't vote if I don't have a good idea of both director's films. That I've experienced both of their catalog enough that I have a sense of their talent and meaning, to me. That only seems fair.

Of course, Mattrick, that's your call, but it's hard for people to give a lot of credence to what you're saying if you have no personal experience with both directors... even if I do agree with what you're saying about Marty ( my pick here ).

And, Dude!! You call yourself a movie fan, aspire to do the Hollywood thing personally, and you've not seen any Kurosawa!?!?! You owe it to yourself to make the effort. Big time.

Jean
10-08-2010, 01:43 AM
only one day left... guys, if will be a rotten shame if Kurosawa is kicked out at this stage

fernandito
10-08-2010, 01:24 PM
Scorsese advances !

Jean
10-08-2010, 08:42 PM
grrrrrrrrrrr..........

bears lose again

Brice
10-09-2010, 04:26 AM
:(

mae
10-09-2010, 12:44 PM
Wow. Folks, don't be afraid of subtitles, watch some Kurosawa...

Jean
10-09-2010, 12:45 PM
hear!

hear!

turtlex
10-09-2010, 01:04 PM
Wow. Folks, don't be afraid of subtitles, watch some Kurosawa...

Hey, I voted for Marty, but I agree whole-heartedly with this statement.

Please don't let the "foreign film" genre of Kurosawa's films stop you. Make the effort to track down his films. You won't be sorry.

fernandito
10-09-2010, 01:18 PM
I fourth (?) that sentiment too.

pathoftheturtle
10-10-2010, 09:23 AM
Eh, who's counting? Bottom line: people can get more out of this contest than they put into it. It's not about who wins; learning things you didn't know before is longer lasting.

fernandito
10-10-2010, 10:01 AM
Definitely.